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Post  Goosegirl on 12/31/2015, 6:17 pm

This is a HUGE step in the right direction.  Only 49 states to go...


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Post  sanderson on 12/31/2015, 11:53 pm

September 2014. So far, I haven't seen any front yard gardens other than those already in existence. Time will tell.

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Post  has55 on 1/1/2016, 12:22 am

awesome,esp the right to grow food  
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Post  Kelejan on 1/1/2016, 6:40 am

Wonderful. Best news I have heard for a long time. Let's hope it does not get overturned.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/1/2016, 9:22 am

I just sent a copy to my state reps!
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Post  Goosegirl on 1/1/2016, 9:41 am

@sanderson wrote:September 2014.  So far, I haven't seen any front yard gardens other than those already in existence.  Time will tell.
With the drought and water restrictions, I am not surprised that in this first year of the law not many new front yard gardens have appeared.  But now that there has been a little rain and snow, the coming spring may bring some new inspiration!
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Post  trolleydriver on 1/1/2016, 9:58 am

Wow ... "In some states- Florida, namely- people have been fined thousands of dollars for planting vegetable gardens".
I thought the USA was the land of the free. We have similar restrictions on front yard gardens but I've never seen a prohibition against backyard veggie gardens. At most I think it would be a bylaw infraction with a small fine if any to do a front yard veggie garden. We do have one person who has a front yard veggie garden in my neighbourhood. But he lives on a corner lot and the way the house is situated he has almost no backyard for growing anything'

Nice to see California is doing the right thing.

BTW ... welcome to 2016 everyone.
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Post  sanderson on 1/1/2016, 2:18 pm

@Goosegirl wrote:
@sanderson wrote:September 2014.  So far, I haven't seen any front yard gardens other than those already in existence.  Time will tell.
With the drought and water restrictions, I am not surprised that in this first year of the law not many new front yard gardens have appeared.  But now that there has been a little rain and snow, the coming spring may bring some new inspiration!
Good point regarding the drought. The State is offering $2 per sq ft for lawns converted to a pre-approved drought landscaping, up to either 1 or 2 thousand dollars max. One house on our street did a nice job. Three homes in an expensive area changed to artificial turf which can get really really hot in the sun.

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Post  littlesapphire on 1/1/2016, 8:21 pm

@sanderson wrote:
@Goosegirl wrote:
@sanderson wrote:September 2014.  So far, I haven't seen any front yard gardens other than those already in existence.  Time will tell.
With the drought and water restrictions, I am not surprised that in this first year of the law not many new front yard gardens have appeared.  But now that there has been a little rain and snow, the coming spring may bring some new inspiration!
Good point regarding the drought.  The State is offering $2 per sq ft for lawns converted to a pre-approved drought landscaping, up to either 1 or 2 thousand dollars max.  One house on our street did a nice job.  Three homes in an expensive area changed to artificial  turf which can get really really hot in the sun.

I wonder what artificial turf does to the underlying soil.  I bet that's not good for the microbes and worms Sad

I've never seen any front yard veggie gardens in my town, but our area is so full of trees that I don't think anyone actually gets any sunlight in their front yards.  I know I don't.  I have trouble growing anything but coleus and impatiens out there.

It's so nice to see that at least one state is being sensible about all this.  Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to make it against the law to grow food in your own yard?!
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Post  CitizenKate on 1/1/2016, 8:57 pm

@littlesapphire wrote:It's so nice to see that at least one state is being sensible about all this.  Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to make it against the law to grow food in your own yard?!
The electric utilities don't like people installing solar panels on their homes and setting up wind turbines.  The water utilities don't like private property owners collecting rain water that falls on their own property.  Food companies don't like people growing their own food.  If they can somehow make it illegal for people to produce their own energy/food/water, they'll never have to worry about competition.
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Post  FRED58 on 1/2/2016, 9:21 am

Hard to believe that the Government WOULDN'T want to encourage people to grow their own food.

We spent New Years Eve with friends in a nearby city of 120,000 people. Their neighbors have a chicken coop. I'm trying to figure the best way to haul some chicken manure two hours home Very Happy .
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 1/2/2016, 9:40 am

@FRED58 wrote:Hard to believe that the Government WOULDN'T want to encourage people to grow their own food.

We spent New Years Eve with friends in a nearby city of 120,000 people. Their neighbors have a chicken coop. I'm trying to figure the best way to haul some chicken manure two hours home Very Happy .

Very carefully! Lol
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Post  sanderson on 1/2/2016, 1:06 pm

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Post  Kelejan on 1/2/2016, 1:19 pm

I would think that Astroturf would cook the poor worms and other life, would be hard to keep clean and in the end  would be stinky. Would rain percolate through?
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Post  No_Such_Reality on 1/2/2016, 7:35 pm

@Kelejan wrote:I would think that Astroturf would cook the poor worms and other life, would be hard to keep clean and in the end  would be stinky. Would rain percolate through?

It's more like a green rug laid over the basis for a patio.  Properly installed artificial grass goes down on prepared ground just like patio pavers.   It gets hot. Real hot in the sun and with people not watering it, basically turns the underlying ground into baked desert.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 1/2/2016, 7:44 pm

@No_Such_Reality wrote:
@Kelejan wrote:I would think that Astroturf would cook the poor worms and other life, would be hard to keep clean and in the end  would be stinky. Would rain percolate through?

It's more like a green rug laid over the basis for a patio.  Properly installed artificial grass goes down on prepared ground just like patio pavers.   It gets hot. Real hot in the sun and with people not watering it, basically turns the underlying ground into baked desert.

Wow, all in the name of "green", what a corruption of that term!
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Post  Kelejan on 1/2/2016, 10:58 pm

Scorpio Rising, I do so agree with that.  Evil or Very Mad
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Post  trolleydriver on 1/2/2016, 11:05 pm

I did some research on what is allowed for front yard veggie gardens here in Ottawa Canada and found a couple of interesting things as follows:

1. There are NO bylaws in the city which expressly prohibit edible front yard gardens.

2. A website that promotes the use of front yard edible gardens in Ottawa ...
http://justfood.ca/community-gardening-network/front-yard-edible-gardens/

I've got way to much lawn to mow on the front of my property. What are the chances I can convince Mrs TD to allow me to convert some of that space into a vegetable garden (read SFG)?
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Post  Kelejan on 1/2/2016, 11:23 pm

Ottawa seems to be very supportive of front yard gardens.  One trick is to make them visually appealing so as to reduce any complaints.
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Post  sanderson on 1/3/2016, 3:34 am

Can you sell Mrs. TD on one of these?







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Post  Kelejan on 1/3/2016, 9:17 am

They do look pretty, sanderson.  Surely no one could object to anything like that?
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Post  yolos on 1/3/2016, 9:35 am

@trolleydriver wrote:I did some research on what is allowed for front yard veggie gardens here in Ottawa Canada and found a couple of interesting things as follows:

1. There are NO bylaws in the city which expressly prohibit edible front yard gardens.

2. A website that promotes the use of front yard edible gardens in Ottawa ...
http://justfood.ca/community-gardening-network/front-yard-edible-gardens/

I've got way to much lawn to mow on the front of my property. What are the chances I can convince Mrs TD to allow me to convert some of that space into a vegetable garden (read SFG)?
My city does not have any laws prohibiting this.  But the homeowners association must approve all landscaping additions to the front yard.  And of now, they will not allow most edible gardens unless they are incorporated into the other landscaping and more or less become a part of the traditional landscaping.
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Post  trolleydriver on 1/3/2016, 1:19 pm

sanderson ... those look really nice.
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Post  littlesapphire on 1/3/2016, 3:13 pm

@trolleydriver wrote:sanderson ... those look really nice.
Totally agree!
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