Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson Today at 3:18 am

» Squares under siege... by grass!
by sanderson Today at 3:08 am

» Need another type of compost.
by sanderson Today at 3:06 am

» Mary Mary quite contrary, how does your garlic grow?
by CitizenKate Today at 12:19 am

» N & C Midwest: March 2017 Brink of Spring
by CitizenKate Yesterday at 11:36 pm

» New England March 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 10:15 pm

» Ground Cherries
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 10:09 pm

» Anyone in SE Idaho or near by?
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by ralitaco Yesterday at 8:54 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by mlpii66 Yesterday at 8:50 pm

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by mlpii66 Yesterday at 8:33 pm

» Comfrey
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 8:00 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 7:54 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in March 2017
by sanderson Yesterday at 5:00 pm

» Hello from Southern Illinois
by MrBooker Yesterday at 4:23 am

» Terrible News: Bumblebees In Trouble
by audrey.jeanne.roberts 3/23/2017, 9:41 pm

» New from OK City
by Scorpio Rising 3/23/2017, 9:34 pm

» Butterfly Junction
by countrynaturals 3/23/2017, 11:56 am

» Tomato Mystery Mix
by Avinash 3/23/2017, 12:06 am

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by TCgardening 3/22/2017, 9:46 pm

» New to SFG!
by TCgardening 3/22/2017, 9:39 pm

» North Texas - Square Foot Garden
by Scorpio Rising 3/22/2017, 8:34 pm

» How can we save this tree?
by countrynaturals 3/22/2017, 2:30 pm

» Ontario - trying out SFG
by Kelejan 3/22/2017, 12:39 pm

» List of Forum Members with Blogs
by Cajun Cappy 3/22/2017, 12:31 pm

» SUGA 2017
by SQWIB 3/22/2017, 9:26 am

» Happy Birthday!!
by AtlantaMarie 3/22/2017, 8:42 am

» who has chickens
by sanderson 3/21/2017, 3:00 pm

» Rolling Boxes
by sanderson 3/21/2017, 2:50 pm

» Bok Choy
by Scorpio Rising 3/20/2017, 7:16 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

swiss chard and the inquirig mind

View previous topic View next topic Go down

swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  p14shooter on 2/24/2016, 9:08 pm

swiss chard.  Picked up another couple seed packs today.  One being swiss chard.  Obviously I have not grown it before (well I tried last year but nothing came up), or eaten it for that matter, but am going to.  But I am confused.  My neighbor grows it and he must plant 1000 seeds/inch and eats the leaves of course.  My pack says to plant 3 inch spacing, and Mel you you say to plant 6 inch.  I thought it was eating as a young leaf, but according to some of the pics here, they grow to the size of a small child.  Even the grocery store here sells the smallish, medium size leaf (to me anyway).  Obvious, what you say is correct, but is there any reason to plant heavily?  I know a couple people who plant 1000 beets/inch as all they want is the greens.  Is it the same thing?
avatar
p14shooter

Male Posts : 76
Join date : 2016-01-18
Location : nova scotia

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 2/24/2016, 9:27 pm

Last year I grew Fordhook Giant Swiss Chard at 4 per square. I actually sowed more than one seed in each of the 4 positions and then allowed only the best seedling to grow to maturity. They grew really well and I harvested the outer leaves until the end of the season when I took the whole plant.

By the way, the seed package for that Fordhook Giant states to sow the seeds on 1 inch spacing and to space the plants 10 inches apart. So I was pushing it with 4 plants per square.
avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  sanderson on 2/25/2016, 1:58 am

The great thing about Mel's Mix with good compost is that you can sometimes push the envelop and plant closer.  Ten inches can be 8" or even 6" if you keep them somewhat picked.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 13147
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  herblover on 2/25/2016, 8:49 am

I usually plant chard at 4 per square; last year I got nothing, but it has previously been a consistently stand out crop for me.
avatar
herblover

Female Posts : 542
Join date : 2010-03-27
Age : 54
Location : Central OH

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  Scorpio Rising on 2/25/2016, 9:35 am

I plant Bright Lights or Rainbow Lights. Pretty and delicious. I put it in front of my trellised pole beans, and it did well. I eat the leaves and stems too, raw and sautéed with garlic, onions, it is very versatile. If I were to put it in a square I would put 4/SF.
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 4328
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  CapeCoddess on 2/25/2016, 9:48 am

I plant about 5/sq as I start eating them when young. If I go off chard for a while they end up a pretty good size but don't seem to mind the crowd.

CC
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 5631
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 2/25/2016, 1:11 pm

If you are in an area with mild winters, swiss chard will grow as a perennial.  We get temps down to the mid to low 20s and it survives.  

When it is growing as a perennial, it sends offshoots that grow into plants and has a naturally crowded growing habit so close spacing won't bother them.  We gather the lower leaves for juicing or to sautee (mmmmmm!)  We cut offshoots back to the stalk when things get a little overcrowded and it will just send more out.
avatar
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1885
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

View user profile http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  has55 on 2/25/2016, 4:00 pm

@audrey.jeanne.roberts wrote:If you are in an area with mild winters, swiss chard will grow as a perennial.  We get temps down to the mid to low 20s and it survives.  

When it is growing as a perennial, it sends offshoots that grow into plants and has a naturally crowded growing habit so close spacing won't bother them.  We gather the lower leaves for juicing or to sautee (mmmmmm!)  We cut offshoots back to the stalk when things get a little overcrowded and it will just send more out.
This is my experience also in North Tx area. We had a plant grow 3 yrs in the old field garden. We finally dug it up last year.
avatar
has55

Posts : 1441
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  sanderson on 2/25/2016, 5:14 pm

It's 80*F today in Fresno so I harvested heavily today - 2 kinds of kale, Swiss chard and broccoli flowers and small leaves.  Now I have to find a good place to transplant the chard for the summer.  I wish I had more boxes just for the "perennial" chard.  Shocked  I covered all of these with bridal tulle for insect control and it worked really worked.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 13147
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  CapeCoddess on 2/25/2016, 5:24 pm

NICE! Greens with envy here!
Wink
CC
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 5631
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  Kelejan on 2/25/2016, 6:03 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:NICE!  Greens with envy here!
Wink
CC

Very Happy CC
avatar
Kelejan

Female Posts : 4756
Join date : 2011-04-24
Age : 82
Location : Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  sanderson on 2/26/2016, 2:42 am

Forgot to post the photo.

Now I have to blanch and freeze them. Shocked

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 13147
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  has55 on 2/26/2016, 7:34 am

Beautiful Sanderson. Look so yummy. Great picture. Ate some swiss chard, kale and mustard green yesterday afternoon.
avatar
has55

Posts : 1441
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  CapeCoddess on 2/26/2016, 10:54 am

@sanderson wrote:Forgot to post the photo.

OMG! I just fell off my chair! Gotta remember to breathe....
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 5631
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  Scorpio Rising on 2/26/2016, 12:15 pm

Spring fever.....beautiful!
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 4328
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 2/26/2016, 12:42 pm

Those look great sanderson. How I wish our growing season was longer. We don't even get half a year.
avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  Kelejan on 2/26/2016, 12:50 pm

@trolleydriver wrote:Those look great sanderson. How I wish our growing season was longer. We don't even get half a year.

TD, why not try doing like JohnP does; go South for the winter.

Oh, I forgot, going South does not mean that you have any time for gardening but I bet he comes back all raring to go.

But according to your post, TD, you have been so busy planning and preparing for this coming season you have put me to shame. Very Happy

Me, I am reading a book. You know the one; about microbes and stuff.
avatar
Kelejan

Female Posts : 4756
Join date : 2011-04-24
Age : 82
Location : Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 2/26/2016, 1:38 pm

KJ ... I tend to over-plan to the point where my brain feels like exploding and at that stage I often go back to a simpler fly by the seat of your pants approach. The planning and experimenting probably have something to do with the fact that I am an engineer.

By the way, it's too expensive to go south for an extended period now that our Canadian dollar has fallen so low against the US dollar. A few more weeks for growing in the Spring and Fall would be about right for me. For many years we lived in the Niagara Peninsula which has a longer growing season than Ottawa.
avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  camprn on 2/26/2016, 5:05 pm

@p14shooter wrote:swill chard.  Picked up another couple seed packs today.  One being swiss chard.  Obviously I have not grown it before (well I tried last year but nothing came up), or eaten it for that matter, but am going to.  But I am confused.  My neighbor grows it and he must plant 1000 seeds/inch and eats the leaves of course.  My pack says to plant 3 inch spacing, and Mel you you say to plant 6 inch.  I thought it was eating as a young leaf, but according to some of the pics here, they grow to the size of a small child.  Even the grocery store here sells the smallish, medium size leaf (to me anyway).  Obvious, what you say is correct, but is there any reason to plant heavily?  I know a couple people who plant 1000 beets/inch as all they want is the greens.  Is it the same thing?
I just scatter my seeds in a few square feet and see what comes up. Then I thin the seedlings progressively, eating all that I pull. The final growing spacing of chard plants for my garden is about 6"-10" apart, it's a cut and come again plant all summer. Chard is a relative of beets and may be sown quite early with good results. It does really well with a few nitrogen feedings throughout the season.

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14083
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  sanderson on 2/26/2016, 9:16 pm

Thanks, guys.  CC, middle of the oppressive summer, I'll be looking wistfully at your garden.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
avatar
sanderson

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 13147
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 68
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  jimmy cee on 2/26/2016, 10:20 pm

I had 4 in a square last season...they took nicely in my cold frame which was converted to a hot frame after it warmed up..
I found keeping plants protected in my area, helps tp keep them happy.


Then when it became hot my zucchini enjoyed protection also.
Notice that 9 foot sunflower in the back....growing in 6 inches of Mel's Mix without support.
avatar
jimmy cee

Certified SFG Instructor

Male Posts : 1898
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 81
Location : Indiana PA....zone 5

View user profile http://www.jcjigs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 3/2/2016, 8:39 am

I am growing this little Swiss Chard plant indoors.

avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  jimmy cee on 3/3/2016, 7:27 am

@trolleydriver wrote:I am growing this little Swiss Chard plant indoors.

 That is one nice looking plant, and I love your mix..
avatar
jimmy cee

Certified SFG Instructor

Male Posts : 1898
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 81
Location : Indiana PA....zone 5

View user profile http://www.jcjigs.com

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 3/3/2016, 8:09 am

Nothing but the best jimmy ... that's Mel's Mix which was left over from one of my new SFG bed's last year.
avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  trolleydriver on 3/7/2016, 2:30 pm

I moved the indoor Swiss Chard plant to a second floor window. The snow outside the window is on top of our garage roof.


avatar
trolleydriver

Forum Moderator

Male Posts : 2691
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 69
Location : Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: swiss chard and the inquirig mind

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum