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Re: Tomato Tuesday 2016

Post  BeetlesPerSqFt on 8/28/2016, 10:53 pm

sanderson - what does KC stand for?

Last weekend I went to a tomato tasting event. There were dozens of varieties from a handful of growers, from the somewhat common to the more obscure. I wish I'd brought some of my tomatoes since I'm growing types that were not represented, and I really love supporting this type of event. I was particularly surprised that Black Krim wasn't there. People were looking for it! I grew it this year because I loved it at the tasting last year. I also wish I'd taken notes, it was less crowded than last year and I might have been able to get away with it without jabbing people with the clipboard.

There was voting, and White Currant cherry tomatoes won the event (finally something other than Sun Gold, which I personally find just crosses over that 'pleasantly sweet' line into the 'cloying' zone.) Some varieties seemed tasteless, but this can depend on several factors other than the variety (ripeness, storage temperature(s), growing conditions, etc.)  I found Sunpeach (cherry-type, Sungold's less-acidic sister), Black Cherry, Mountain Magic (salad tomato type), Sakura (another cherry-type) and Merlot (grape-type) were notably good. 

But these are all smaller tomatoes, which isn't helpful for me replacing my Rutgers with a full-flavor, early blight and cracking resistant, medium-large, globe-type tomato. I'm in the zone 5-6 range, Mid-Atlantic region. Although I prefer indeterminate, I'd consider a determinate variety since my goal for this sort of tomato is canning and a lot all at once seems to be better for that than trying to slowly amass enough tomatoes before the first ones go bad. Does anyone have a suggestion for a variety they grow and love that meets these requirements?

Cherokee Purple was also good -- someone on some post I've misplaced asked how it compares with Black Krim. I didn't get to have them side-by-side, but I would say Cherokee is definitely sweeter, *maybe* richer/more-complex. Similar enough that I won't be switching next year, but good enough that I would grow it if a few seeds came my way.

I got some Bellstar (plum/paste) tomato seeds on sale. Has anyone grown this variety?

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Post  sanderson on 8/29/2016, 3:55 am

BK, I meant BK (Black Krim)

I wish I could help with your question, but I am the only person in CA that can't grow tomatoes on even-numbered years. Razz

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Re: Tomato Tuesday 2016

Post  BeetlesPerSqFt on 8/30/2016, 9:36 pm

Sanderson - It looks like my answers are happening over on the "What won't you grow next year or are still trying to grow?" thread.  Smile

I haven't been gardening long enough to determine whether I've got any quirks like that (biennial tomato growing). I'm worried it might be scallions. Grew em fine last year. Couldn't do a thing with them this year. thinking

I will say that my Sweetie tomatoes were much higher yielding last year. But I can't actually complain because I really wouldn't be able to handle the influx of more tomatoes right now this year. Blessing in disguise sort of thing. Green zebras for the win! 

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Post  sanderson on 8/30/2016, 9:41 pm

Nice!

Found this on the patio. It seems to be gaining strength as it climbs a nearby roll of weed fabric .

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Post  countrynaturals on 8/30/2016, 11:44 pm

Boo! Hiss! Sphinx moth! Tomato hornworm's mommy. Mad

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 8/31/2016, 12:55 am

That tomato tasting thing is such a great idea!   I grew Cherokee purple  this year, first time. love them. Hoe does Black Krim compare?

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Post  Turan on 8/31/2016, 1:14 am

@BeetlesPerSqFt wrote:But these are all smaller tomatoes, which isn't helpful for me replacing my Rutgers with a full-flavor, early blight and cracking resistant, medium-large, globe-type tomato. I'm in the zone 5-6 range, Mid-Atlantic region. Although I prefer indeterminate, I'd consider a determinate variety since my goal for this sort of tomato is canning and a lot all at once seems to be better for that than trying to slowly amass enough tomatoes before the first ones go bad. Does anyone have a suggestion for a variety they grow and love that meets these requirements?

It sounds like you would like Big Beef , it has nice reasonably big globes and great taste and grows well in my experience.  My family loves it.  I do prefer the paste types for canning, but this is more like Rutgers than a paste type.
 A bit later, heirloom, and a maybe a more spread out ripening is an oxheart called Cuore Di Bue. This is probably not as disease resistant as Big Beef.  It is less juicy, which my family prefers and is nicer for canning.

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Re: Tomato Tuesday 2016

Post  BeetlesPerSqFt on 8/31/2016, 6:25 pm

@Turan wrote:
@BeetlesPerSqFt wrote:But these are all smaller tomatoes, which isn't helpful for me replacing my Rutgers with a full-flavor, early blight and cracking resistant, medium-large, globe-type tomato. I'm in the zone 5-6 range, Mid-Atlantic region. Although I prefer indeterminate, I'd consider a determinate variety since my goal for this sort of tomato is canning and a lot all at once seems to be better for that than trying to slowly amass enough tomatoes before the first ones go bad. Does anyone have a suggestion for a variety they grow and love that meets these requirements?

It sounds like you would like Big Beef , it has nice reasonably big globes and great taste and grows well in my experience.  My family loves it.  I do prefer the paste types for canning, but this is more like Rutgers than a paste type.
 A bit later, heirloom, and a maybe a more spread out ripening is an oxheart called Cuore Di Bue. This is probably not as disease resistant as Big Beef.  It is less juicy, which my family prefers and is nicer for canning.
Thanks, Turan! I'll add those to my list of possibilities.

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Post  countrynaturals on 10/26/2016, 12:35 am

Finally something to brag about!  cheers I just picked the first Super Snow White cherry tomato. It was DELICIOUS! Very Happy I planted this one late in the summer, in a container that's easy to move so I could bring it inside for the winter, and there are plenty more on the vine. Looks like I will finally have a continuous supply of good tomatoes. YEE-HAH!

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Post  sanderson on 10/26/2016, 1:55 am

Well, good for you. You needed something to cheer you up after the killer heat and being sick.


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Post  sanderson on 10/26/2016, 2:01 am

Last tomato plant that I keep putting off removing.  It is a Sun Gold from a sucker that I stuck in the new quasi BTE strip along the inside of the public fence.  When we drove down the side street, there were 3 ladies investigating these during their evening walk!!  

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Post  countrynaturals on 10/26/2016, 3:40 pm

I can't wait to try sun gold next year. Cool

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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/26/2016, 4:19 pm

@countrynaturals wrote:Finally something to brag about!  cheers I just picked the first Super Snow White cherry tomato. It was DELICIOUS! Very Happy I planted this one late in the summer, in a container that's easy to move so I could bring it inside for the winter, and there are plenty more on the vine. Looks like I will finally have a continuous supply of good tomatoes. YEE-HAH!

Wonderful!  Keep us updated on how it works out for you having it inside.  I did that with a Roma once and it was good for a couple of months, green fruits turning red but now new fruits or flowers. I had fresh tomatoes for Christmas! Then the plant seemed unhappy, turning black and mildewy, so I let it go.
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Post  countrynaturals on 10/26/2016, 8:06 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:

Wonderful!  Keep us updated on how it works out for you having it inside.  I did that with a Roma once and it was good for a couple of months, green fruits turning red but now new fruits or flowers. I had fresh tomatoes for Christmas! Then the plant seemed unhappy, turning black and mildewy, so I let it go.
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I'm bringing in several other varieties, too, so I'll give you a full report on my progress.

When we moved here, 3 years ago, we brought a cherry tomato plant in a container. We were so busy running fence, building a barn and chicken coop, etc., that poor little plant was at the bottom of the priority list. When November rolled around that year, I brought it in -- leggy and bedraggled -- and it produced all winter long. I have no idea what variety it was, but that experience has made me very optimistic. Cool

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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/27/2016, 8:36 pm

Country, yes, cherry tomato plants are trooper fersure. I should try it. Do you remember what color the fruits were?

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Post  countrynaturals on 10/27/2016, 11:33 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:Country, yes, cherry tomato plants are trooper fersure.  I should try it.  Do you remember what color the fruits were?  
Those were red. They came as a plant from Ace garden center, so they weren't anything fancy. 

These are an interesting translucent pale yellow when ripe and absolutely yummy. I grew them from seeds I got from a private party (Listia). I hope I can find the seeds again next year. Hmm, maybe I'd better save some seeds, I case I can't find them again. thinking

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Post  AtlantaMarie on 12/4/2016, 1:51 am

[quote="countrynaturals"
These are an interesting translucent pale yellow when ripe and absolutely yummy. I grew them from seeds I got from a private party (Listia). I hope I can find the seeds again next year. Hmm, maybe I'd better save some seeds, I case I can't find them again. thinking[/quote]

CN, these are the ones you just sent me; correct?

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Post  countrynaturals on 12/4/2016, 7:01 pm

@AtlantaMarie wrote:[quote="countrynaturals"
These are an interesting translucent pale yellow when ripe and absolutely yummy. I grew them from seeds I got from a private party (Listia). I hope I can find the seeds again next year. Hmm, maybe I'd better save some seeds, I case I can't find them again. thinking

CN, these are the ones you just sent me; correct?[/quote]

Yep! Thems the ones! I'm not getting any more blossoms so I will definitely stagger my plantings from now on. I don't ever want to be without these again. I looked them up and found this:
http://store.tomatofest.com/Super_Snow_White_Tomato_Seeds_p/tf-0481.htm
Now I know I can get them again if my seed-saving experiment fails.

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Post  sanderson on 12/5/2016, 9:03 am

CN, I think it's nap time for the tomatoes. If you keep the plant alive, it should wake up in a couple of months.

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Post  countrynaturals on 12/5/2016, 5:12 pm

@sanderson wrote:CN,  I think it's nap time for the tomatoes.  If you keep the plant alive, it should wake up in a couple of months.
Kewl! I didn't know that and would probably have given it a proper burial in the compost heap. thanks

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Post  AtlantaMarie on 12/6/2016, 1:06 am

Has anyone ordered from Tomatofest.com? If so, what was your experience like? Did you like their service? What did you purchase? Did they grow well?

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Post  countrynaturals on 12/6/2016, 4:51 pm

My first big tomato! It's a crimson beefsteak. It's about 3" across -- not as big as I expected, but that's okay. It's still hard, so we won't pick it, yet. Fingers crossed that it meets Hubby's high standards, or I'll be back in the market for tomato seeds. It started life outside, but I brought the plant in a couple of weeks ago. There's one more tomato on the vine and new blossoms forming, so if we like it, there will be more. Cool

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Post  sanderson on 12/6/2016, 6:11 pm

Beautiful looking fruit.

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Post  trolleydriver on 12/6/2016, 6:17 pm

@sanderson wrote:Beautiful looking fruit.

It sure is. Very nice.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 12/6/2016, 8:30 pm

Yum! Let us know about the flavor please?
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