Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Howdy, from Central Florida
by Sam BigDeer Today at 3:05 pm

» Coffee Substitute?
by countrynaturals Today at 12:32 pm

» A really, really Frugal Gardener
by countrynaturals Today at 12:28 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY - ENDS 10/20/17
by brianj555 Today at 11:20 am

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:55 am

» Today's Harvest
by brianj555 Today at 10:44 am

» Biochar?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:40 am

» Sowing Experiment! Anyone Tried This?
by brianj555 Today at 10:36 am

» Spaghetti Squash ?
by countrynaturals Today at 10:28 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 5:34 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by yolos Yesterday at 5:16 pm

» Worm bin?
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:16 pm

» Frames for SFG Beds - Versitile PVC frames for Protection
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:10 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 3:25 pm

» Tomato Questions
by brianj555 Yesterday at 10:57 am

» California's Drought
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 10:04 am

» Hello from a 7b zone
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 10:00 am

» Newbie from Ayrshire, West Coast of Scotland
by plantoid Yesterday at 7:27 am

» Butterfly Junction
by sanderson Yesterday at 12:08 am

» Mels book
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 11:54 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by Scorpio Rising 10/20/2017, 8:16 pm

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by countrynaturals 10/20/2017, 11:34 am

» My Compost Bin
by SQWIB 10/20/2017, 7:36 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:38 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by sanderson 10/20/2017, 3:07 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by LizDTM 10/20/2017, 12:21 am

» How to Grow Better Tomatoes
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:59 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:54 pm

» Helpful Beetles
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:45 pm

» Does MM improve with age?
by countrynaturals 10/19/2017, 7:41 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Four O'Clocks

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Four O'Clocks

Post  Bart on 6/9/2016, 8:32 am

Hi Folks,

Okay, this question is a bit out of the box, get it? Okay here goes.

I've heard scary things about Four O'Clocks, that they take over the yard and can't be gotten rid of. True or false? Are they that big of a threat or should I plant them and enjoy the show? Your opinion, yea or nay?

Thanks
Bart
avatar
Bart

Posts : 124
Join date : 2015-04-17
Location : Troy, VA

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/10/2016, 12:11 am

Bart, I am dealing with the same issue with wild carrot (Dara) that I have germinated. Yes, it is Queen Anne' Lace, and yes it is a weed. Invasive? No. At least not in my experience or locale. I grew up with the stuff. It is pretty. Bees love it. Yes, it is non-native. An introduced species.

But I do not think your Four O'clocks or my Dara are trying to replace anything that is naturally supporting any threatened species, such as milkweed and Monarchs! Do it. There is always Round Up ( yes, I said it) if it gets crazy! But keep the RU away from your butterfly/bee patch! Location, location, location! tongue

I love 4 O'clocks, and so do hummers and bees! I say plant away!
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 5365
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  yolos on 6/10/2016, 12:17 am

Four O'clocks reseed easily.  If you do not want it to reseed, just remove the seeds after the flower dies.  If I remember correctly, there is only one seed in each flower and it is very prominent and easy to remove.  Tubers will grow and the plant will regrow the following year if mulched over the winter.  At least that is my experience here in Georgia.  These were planted from seed in the spring of 2015.  They died when it got cold and regrew in the spring this year.  I removed all the seeds as the flowers dried because I wanted to save the seeds to plant the next year.  It turns out I did not need to replant seeds because the plants regrew from tubers.  I do not know what would have happened if I did not remove all the seeds last year.   Also, I do not know if the tubers will divide and become invasive in later years.  
avatar
yolos

Female Posts : 3267
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 67
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/10/2016, 12:29 am

OK, I am on the wrong plant. I am thinking of Morning Glories. Not 4'O clocks. I have never grown those!
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 5365
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Oops

Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/10/2016, 12:31 am

avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 5365
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  hammock gal on 6/10/2016, 7:19 am

I love morning glories, but they will reseed, and pop up in places where you don't necessarily want them, and can be tough to get rid of, at least for me. A couple of others not to plant unless you want them everywhere...gooseneck loosestrife and sensitive fern. I've been trying to get rid of them for years, and getting nowhere fast. But if you have a place where you don't mind the morning glories going crazy, I say go for it. They're sooo pretty, especially Heavenly Blue and Grandpa Ott.
avatar
hammock gal

Female Posts : 252
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  Scorpio Rising on 6/10/2016, 8:16 am

I agree, hammockgirl! I have gooseneck loosestrife in 2 spots, and they just keep expanding! Morning glories I think reseed, so a little less problematic. But still?
avatar
Scorpio Rising

Female Posts : 5365
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 55
Location : Ada, Ohio

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  hammock gal on 6/10/2016, 10:56 am

Scorpio Rising wrote:I agree, hammockgirl!  I have gooseneck loosestrife in 2 spots, and they just keep expanding!  Morning glories I think reseed, so a little less problematic.  But still?  
And they will keep on expanding. They remind me of mint...you try to pull them up, and their roots go on for yards!!! I really don't like to use Round Up, but after trying to get rid of them for about 12 years, and seeing those suckers come back every spring, I may have to resort to it. Why can't they just behave? Laughing
avatar
hammock gal

Female Posts : 252
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  CapeCoddess on 6/10/2016, 4:45 pm

Goutweed is my nemesis. Mad It has flowers just like Queen Anne Lace. And will revert to it's all green origin.

http://www.canadiangardening.com/how-to/pests-and-diseases/the-top-10-unwanted-garden-plants/a/32921
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 6455
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  hammock gal on 6/11/2016, 9:10 am

CapeCoddess wrote:Goutweed is my nemesis.  Mad   It has flowers just like Queen Anne Lace.  And will revert to it's all green origin.

http://www.canadiangardening.com/how-to/pests-and-diseases/the-top-10-unwanted-garden-plants/a/32921

Grrrrrrr...I have #2 on the list, the bittersweet vine. The first time I saw it, in the fall, with it's berries, I thought they were pretty, and left them alone. Now, years later, they're out of control, along with the Virginia Creeper.
avatar
hammock gal

Female Posts : 252
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Four O'Clocks

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum