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Post  Zap on 10/4/2016, 1:44 pm

Hello,

I'm interested in getting opinions about raised bed gardens, specifically whether anyone has any information and/or opinions about building RBG's from cedar and and preferences on choosing Western Red Cedar Vs Eastern White Cedar?

I'm interested in all aspects of the "whys"

Thanks!
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Post  sanderson on 10/4/2016, 5:37 pm

Hi, Zap. Welcome to the Forum from California! glad you\'re here Did you read our existing threads on Cedar? Just enter in the Search box. It seems the EWC should be less expensive for you than the WRC. I think most of us use the cheapest wood, usually pine or fir, for our beds. All woods will eventually rot and need replacing. Sad

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Post  plantoid on 10/5/2016, 4:29 pm

@Zap wrote:Hello,

I'm interested in getting opinions about raised bed gardens, specifically whether anyone has any information and/or opinions about building RBG's from cedar and and preferences on choosing Western Red Cedar Vs Eastern White Cedar?

I'm interested in all aspects of the "whys"

Thanks!
 I used to have a lot of 30 year old Western red cedar beehives ( 76 of them ) they sat on stands on the ground made of the same wood . The feet of the stands was well weathered but serviceable on most of them . The wood was not treated with a preservative .
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The oldest white cedar wood hives ( 24 of them ) I had were around 16 years old & ready for the bonfire , stands lasted seven or so years before having to be burnt as they had rotted away on the legs at ground contact  in almost every case & that was with them being treated with a bee friendly wood preservative .

 I have seen many a 25 year old glasshouse made on WRC wood frame work untreated from the date the were made .

White  Pine on the other hand was at the end of it's life by year 12 or so , again the wood was treated with an undercoated and a gloss paint top coat before the glazing was added .
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Post  Zap on 10/5/2016, 4:39 pm

@plantoid wrote:
@Zap wrote:Hello,

I'm interested in getting opinions about raised bed gardens, specifically whether anyone has any information and/or opinions about building RBG's from cedar and and preferences on choosing Western Red Cedar Vs Eastern White Cedar?

I'm interested in all aspects of the "whys"

Thanks!
 I used to have a lot of 30 year old Western red cedar beehives ( 76 of them ) they sat on stands on the ground made of the same wood . The feet of the stands was well weathered but serviceable on most of them . The wood was not treated with a preservative .
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The oldest white cedar wood hives ( 24 of them ) I had were around 16 years old & ready for the bonfire , stands lasted seven or so years before having to be burnt as they had rotted away on the legs at ground contact  in almost every case & that was with them being treated with a bee friendly wood preservative .

 I have seen many a 25 year old glasshouse made on WRC wood frame work untreated from the date the were made .

White  Pine on the other hand was at the end of it's life by year 12 or so , again the wood was treated with an undercoated and a gloss paint top coat before the glazing was added .
Did you mean White "Pine" or "Cedar"?  They're not the same thing.
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Post  plantoid on 10/5/2016, 6:18 pm

I was told those non WRC  hives were White Cedar .


Untreated pine wouldn't have lasted much past seven years as the wood's  cells do not contain any sensible amounts of resins and they are quite open form/spongy .
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Post  Zap on 10/6/2016, 8:28 am

@plantoid wrote:I was told those non WRC  hives were White Cedar .


Untreated pine wouldn't have lasted much past seven years as the wood's  cells do not contain any sensible amounts of resins and they are quite open form/spongy .
Your post said  "white pine" in one place, so I wanted to verify that you simply misspoke.  I wouldn't expect pine to last that long either.
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