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Post  MrBooker on 11/16/2016, 1:01 pm

I thought I read somewhere that now would be a good time to amend the soil if your garden was done. My 8x8 turnip bed is about done but I was going to wait til spring to amend.
    
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Post  trolleydriver on 11/16/2016, 1:11 pm

I do. I mix compost in the MM in my ANSFG squares and I amend the soil with compost in my two old style SFG beds.

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Post  sanderson on 11/16/2016, 1:25 pm

I do. I'm guessing folks do it both ways, in the fall or spring. I do it both fall and spring because of growing year around in CA. Plus, the worms seem to thrive year around, doing their magic.

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Post  No_Such_Reality on 11/16/2016, 2:29 pm

I tend to follow the sooner I can amend the better.  Everything gets a chance to season.  Prevents unfinished burn and allows everything to fully incorporate.

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Post  CapeCoddess on 11/16/2016, 2:49 pm

I do both.
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Post  Kelejan on 11/16/2016, 5:54 pm

@MrBooker wrote:I thought I read somewhere that now would be a good time to amend the soil if your garden was done. My 8x8 turnip bed is about done but I was going to wait til spring to amend.
    
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If you are able to I would suggest, do it now, then the soil could build, albeit more slowly, the rest of the winter and accelerate when spring arrives.

One less job in the spring.


Edited to add:  Reading further down, I see N_S_R does it that way.
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Post  MrBooker on 11/16/2016, 6:40 pm

@Kelejan wrote:
@MrBooker wrote:I thought I read somewhere that now would be a good time to amend the soil if your garden was done. My 8x8 turnip bed is about done but I was going to wait til spring to amend.
    
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If you are able to I would suggest, do it now, then the soil could build, albeit more slowly, the rest of the winter and accelerate when spring arrives.

One less job in the spring.


Edited to add:  Reading further down, I see N_L_R does it that way.
Thanks for all the response but I think I'll do it in the early spring. Seems to me some of the nutrients would be washed away if I do it now. Maybe  I'll think it over and decide later.
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Post  sanderson on 11/17/2016, 3:23 am

Nutrients mostly stay in the active microbe area, so nutrients aren't really washed away during the winter. http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t20218-microbes-you-gotta-see-this-one?highlight=Microbes

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Post  BeetlesPerSqFt on 11/17/2016, 8:54 pm

I do both.
Partly because this year I just got free, u-pick, fresh horse manure (with weed seeds!) that needs to age before spring (I'm sure composting it out of the beds would be better than in, but that isn't an option this year.)
Partly because amending the whole garden in the spring is too much for me on top of the sowing and indoor seedling care.
If your amendments aren't "raw" and you aren't pressed for time in the spring, wait until you're in the mood. I feel it's important to limit the amount of things that "have to" be done for the garden at precise times, so that you don't resent it.

Thanks for the info, Sanderson. I'd been wondering about that and I'm glad to know I can mostly feel not guilty about needing to time shift some of my amending to the late fall/early winter. Smile
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 11/18/2016, 7:25 am

So, I'm in the process of collecting leaves from the neighbors. I'm thinking about adding them to the beds to compost over the winter since DH hasn't gotten the composter done yet.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Rude remarks?
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Post  trolleydriver on 11/18/2016, 7:42 am

@AtlantaMarie wrote:So, I'm in the process of collecting leaves from the neighbors.  I'm thinking about adding them to the beds to compost over the winter since DH hasn't gotten the composter done yet.

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My concern would be that when the leaves get wet they will form a thick wet mat. Maybe mulching/chopping into small pieces would help.  Of course when they are dry they tend to just blow away. I'm also wondering if the decomposing leaves will take nitrogen out of the soil/MM as they decompose.
 
I just found the following article which agrees with mulching the leaves first.

http://www.gardeners.com/how-to/put-fall-leaves-to-work/5402.html

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Post  MrBooker on 11/18/2016, 8:53 am

@trolleydriver wrote:
@AtlantaMarie wrote:So, I'm in the process of collecting leaves from the neighbors.  I'm thinking about adding them to the beds to compost over the winter since DH hasn't gotten the composter done yet.

Thoughts?  Suggestions?  Rude remarks?
My concern would be that when the leaves get wet they will form a thick wet mat. Maybe mulching/chopping into small pieces would help.  Of course when they are dry they tend to just blow away. I'm also wondering if the decomposing leaves will take nitrogen out of the soil/MM as they decompose.
 
I just found the following article which agrees with mulching the leaves first.

http://www.gardeners.com/how-to/put-fall-leaves-to-work/5402.html
Thanks for the link.  I was just on my way out the door to mulch more leaves. I've been mulching my leaves for a few week and have many more to fall yet.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 11/18/2016, 10:47 am

Oh, yes, I'm mowing them a couple of times to start breaking them down. And I'm not going to be planting outside this winter, tempting as it is, lol.

And that is a good link! Good to know about the slow-release nitrogen...

Okay, I guess I know what I'll be doing. Thanks for the info, TD!
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Post  sanderson on 11/19/2016, 12:47 pm

This is my take. Leaves are browns, so yes, they need a green source for them to compost. Otherwise, they will just turn into leaf mold. When I mulch with straw in the summer, I first add a thin layer of bagged composted manure or a thick layer of compost.

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