Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Display results as :


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» What are you eating from your garden today?
by Judy McConnell Today at 3:08 pm

» Today's Harvest
by brianj555 Today at 2:20 pm

» N&C Midwest; November Already? 2017
by Scorpio Rising Today at 10:49 am

» The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic
by has55 Today at 6:26 am

» New England Nov 2017
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 8:53 am

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 8:49 am

» Happy Thanksgiving All!
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 8:26 am

» Birds of the Garden
by Scorpio Rising 11/22/2017, 9:01 pm

» Holy snow Batman!
by trolleydriver 11/22/2017, 3:44 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by sanderson 11/22/2017, 12:33 pm

» Microgreens Gardening
by AtlantaMarie 11/22/2017, 11:55 am

» My new compost heap
by AtlantaMarie 11/22/2017, 8:20 am

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by Robbomb116 11/21/2017, 11:55 am

» Alternative cover to straw for overwintering strawberries.
by BeetlesPerSqFt 11/21/2017, 9:38 am

» First Frost!
by brianj555 11/20/2017, 3:27 pm

» Senseless Banter...
by BeetlesPerSqFt 11/20/2017, 11:29 am

» How Many Square Feet Do You Have?
by BeetlesPerSqFt 11/20/2017, 8:56 am

» Tomato Questions
by brianj555 11/19/2017, 11:07 am

» BOOK GIVEAWAY #5 - ENDS 11/17/17
by brianj555 11/18/2017, 4:12 pm

» What I learned this year
by countrynaturals 11/18/2017, 1:45 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver 11/18/2017, 9:26 am

» First Tromboncino female flower
by countrynaturals 11/17/2017, 5:51 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver 11/17/2017, 1:59 pm

» Free lunaria seeds
by hammock gal 11/17/2017, 10:12 am

» Plastic containers / trash cans?
by sanderson 11/16/2017, 10:33 pm

» Mels book
by Scorpio Rising 11/16/2017, 7:04 pm

» Mid-Atl - Nov 2017 - Warming Up AGAIN?
by sanderson 11/16/2017, 4:17 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by Turan 11/15/2017, 4:59 pm

» Goodbye to my SFG Raised Beds
by Turan 11/15/2017, 4:41 pm

» Pickle recipes
by sanderson 11/15/2017, 4:12 am


Search SFG Forum

Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

Post  dosstx on 6/25/2017, 10:16 am

 Second time doing a SFG and had some questions:

  1. How do I know which plants require vertical support? A few years ago I tried out SFG and while it was a success, a lot of my vegetables sprawled along the ground outside the box. Am I supposed to use some kind of vertical support ? 

  2. Can I place a 1x4 box next to a chain link fence and then use the fence as a vertical support system for plants?

Posts : 1
Join date : 2017-06-25
Location : MO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

Post  countrynaturals on 6/25/2017, 12:08 pm

As a general rule, trellising is better than letting your plants crawl on the ground for several reasons.
1) Slugs love organic matter. If all they can find are stems, they will usually move on.
2) Fungi and some diseases thrive on close quarters. Trellises allow better air circulation to let your plants breathe. The plants also get more "exercise" in the breeze and become stronger.
3) Trellised plants are more accessible for you to supervise and harvest.
4) Vertical gardening maximizes space. You can plant all sorts of small stuff under your trellised vines.
5) If you plan carefully, your trellised plants can protect smaller, more sensitive plants from too much sun or wind.
6) Attractive trellises can add visual interest to your garden.
7) Many plants don't like to be watered from above. Trellising keeps the leaves and fruit above the watering level. 

I'm sure you'll hear from the experts on this -- I'm just a newbie -- but I support everything that wants to lay down, either with cages, support sticks, or a trellis. That includes tomatoes, peppers, peas, cucumbers, and beans. The heavier crops, like melons, I mulch like crazy so the fruit never touches dirt. BTW, I am old school sfg -- still using soil -- so the ANSFG experts might have better info for MM.

I see nothing wrong with using the chain link fence as long as you can get to it. I had a problem in my sfg bed last year at the corners, where I couldn't reach to the back trellis. (I don't plant climbers in the corners any more. Rolling Eyes)

With all that said, I still plant peas in goofy unused, places and let them crawl. There's no maintenance, I may still get some to harvest, and the plants replenish nitrogen in the soil for next season. geek

Female Posts : 2844
Join date : 2016-04-12
Location : Redding, CA

View user profile http://countrynaturals.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

Post  sanderson on 6/26/2017, 4:50 am

Hi Doss, Welcome to the Forum from California! glad you\'re here

I like what CountryNaturals stated about trellising. If it wants to lay down, it gets trellised, caged or staked. Anything with the words "pole", as in beans and peas, or "indeterminate" as in tomatoes needs support. Vining plants like winter squash, small sugar melons, cantaloupes, and cucumbers like trellises. (However, there is a bush cucumber variety.) Regarding the chain link fence, can you reach over it or walk around for tending and harvesting?


Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14948
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 69
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

Post  AtlantaMarie on 6/26/2017, 8:10 am

Hi Dosstx. Welcome from Atlanta, GA!

I have my boxes next to chain link fence & use the fencing for trellising. But I also have extended trellising over them. So the chain link is a good start. (You can see my trellising under the Garden Showcase link - AtlantaMarie's Garden.) Your plants WILL grow longer than the fence is tall. I've had some stuff spread out horizontally on the trellising a good 10-15 feet.

You DO need to be aware that you need to put something like heavy plastic between the fence & the box. Or you'll get weeds, grass, tree seedlings, etc. growing between them. Ask me how I know..... It's a real problem too! Especially since I'm trying to grow organically.

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4337
Join date : 2014-03-18
Age : 54
Location : Buford, GA - Zones 7B/8A

View user profile http://www.defensivespecialties.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Questions on vegetable plants that require vertical support

Post  Sponsored content

Sponsored content

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum