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Anyone in 5b?

Post  middlemamma on 5/21/2010, 6:30 pm

I am in Post Falls Idaho. Looking for fellow gardeners to talk with about what plants work well here, what you grow etc. Smile

We had a cold night here last night and a few more are forcasted...also looking to find out timelines on frosts and when you start your gardens etc.

Just would like to chit chat with some folks familiar with the weather patterns here as I am new to the area AND new to gardening.

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Post  dmpower on 5/21/2010, 7:34 pm

Hi Middlemamma,

I am also from 5b, but about 2000 miles east and south of you - Bloomington, IN. Our averages may be the same, but I think we might experience very different weather on a day to day basis.
Have you checked out the regional forums? They can be found on the main forum page, just under the main forum. You can access any of them. It doesn't really matter if you are in the zone or not. I'm sure you will get others answering here as well

have fun!!
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Post  middlemamma on 5/21/2010, 7:45 pm

Yes, I posted this thread in what I thought was my proper region?

Did I do it wrong?

5b stretches that far??? WOW....that kind makes the regions a useless way of meeting people near me to talk about what they grow etc....

LOL I may have to try a straight forward.."HEY I am in Post Falls ID...ANYONE NEAR ME?" approach huh?

Very Happy
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Post  dmpower on 5/21/2010, 7:48 pm

Actually, you did post in the correct spot. I didn't even look to see what forum I was in when I answered the call. Yeah, I was surprised when you mentioned Idaho, at firs I was thinking Ohio lol
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I'm in 5b also

Post  jenjehle on 5/21/2010, 11:21 pm

But I'm in NE Indiana... long ways from Idaho Smile


Our nights are finally warming up, maybe in the 50's most of the time and sometime's in the 60's. Most of the last few weeks here have been rain or trying to dry out from days of rain. I put all my plants in yesterday (5-20) and we rec'd lots of rain today, again. The grass in my yard is squishy!

Good luck finding other gardeners in your more immediate area!
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Post  mckr3441 on 5/22/2010, 12:13 am

Hi Middlemamma. I'm a 5b also but all the way across the country! Yes. 5b can be found all across America -- almost. The last frost date in my area is about May 18 but it can be as early as April 21. We had a really nice spell in April but it's been nasty most of the time since. We had a freeze warning recently although I didn't get anything more than a frost.

Idaho is such a beautiful state! No wonder you're loving it there. Have you checked your frost dates yet? I bet they are similar to mine even though we are such a distance apart.

I hope you find SFG gardeners near you. If you don't, then you can convert some of your locals by showing them how successful you are .

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Re: Anyone in 5b?

Post  middlemamma on 5/22/2010, 12:33 am

No...well yes, I did check...this morning. (wince) Should have checked yesterday and would have saved myself the tears of my other post..."Is there any hope".

I am amazed the regions are so large...I guess I am missing something. I dont see the purpose of such a large region. I am new at this whole thing...lots to learn.
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Post  Kabaju42 on 5/22/2010, 10:55 am

I'm still learning too, but here's what I've figured out so far.

The zones and regions are two different things. The zones deal specifically with temperatures, so it's mostly dependent on your latitude (and a few other things). Here's a map of the zones to see how it looks. http://www.garden.org/zipzone/index.php. Sometimes I wonder if the zones are a little too specific since temperatures vary year to year. The way my Uncle put it, "I'm in zone 5 or 6 depending on the year." I fit the same description.

I think the regions deal with more than just temperatures. I think it's things like native plants, pests, soil types, etc. For example Utah's soil is mostly clay, is Idaho's the same way? (Of course not that it matters if you're using Mel's mix, but it could help for other gardening aspects.) Boffer posted a map and explinations here: http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/the-purpose-and-use-of-regional-forums-f38/what-is-a-region-for-with-map-t872.htm.
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Post  AliSmith13 on 6/6/2010, 8:02 pm

Hello from Nampa, ID! I have been hoping to find someone near me as well...we're not super close, but close enough! Unfortunately....I won't be of much help, because I am a complete newbie and clueless about most things.

BUT, you never know. Glad to "meet" ya though and feel free to pm me anytime!
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Post  martha on 6/6/2010, 8:16 pm

Alismith - when I was teaching horseback riding to beginners, I was amazed how very much I learned from them.
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Post  camprn on 6/6/2010, 8:29 pm

USDA hardiness zones coast to coast are 5-8 :suspect:
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Post  Garden_State on 6/6/2010, 8:30 pm

Hi Middlemamma - Here is a map of the US showing the zones. as you can see a lot of them extend all the way across the county.

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Post  aspiegardner on 6/7/2010, 6:36 pm

WOW based on those maps I'm almost a zone 4. I'm like 40 miles or less from the WY and NE borders in far northesastern CO. Major plains here.

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Post  Nurse Grams on 6/7/2010, 9:12 pm

I'm color-blind so those maps are never helpful to me. However, the link that Kabaju42 supplied to the National Gardening Assoc. page where you can enter your Zip Code and find out what your Hardiness Zone is was AMAZINGLY helpful! So, thanks for the link... I actually book-marked it, even.

My location is West Michigan (Lower Peninsula) about 15 miles from the Lake Michigan shore and I'm in Zone 5-B according to the link Kabaju42 provided.
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Post  chocolatepop on 6/7/2010, 10:44 pm

@Nurse Grams wrote:I'm color-blind so those maps are never helpful to me. However, the link that Kabaju42 supplied to the National Gardening Assoc. page where you can enter your Zip Code and find out what your Hardiness Zone is was AMAZINGLY helpful! So, thanks for the link... I actually book-marked it, even.

My location is West Michigan (Lower Peninsula) about 15 miles from the Lake Michigan shore and I'm in Zone 5-B according to the link Kabaju42 provided.

Hi Pam, where are you from?
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Post  Little Thumb on 6/8/2010, 9:44 am

Hi Middlemamma,

I live in 5b but I am in KANSAS. I used to live in Post Falls Idaho and from what I can remember you have cool evenings all summer. Well, I guess it depends how high up you are and where you are. Are you on flat land or up a hill or small mountain? I do remember the growing season for certain things was very short.

I never had a garden there but listened to others. the cool evenings made it a bit difficult. If you are on the wrong side of a large hill or small mountain you will have a very early nightfall. That is the one thing I hated about Idaho, the early nightfall, dark at 4:00PM in the winter. If you are on the wrong side of the hill.

Let us know where about you are, flat land, tucked behind a hill, how much daylight you get, etc. and we will help you out.

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Post  middlemamma on 6/8/2010, 1:41 pm

Im at the west end of Post Falls, where the acreage is. Lots of cows and horses around me, pretty flat, no shade from a hill or anything.

Where my garden is gets sun from sun up to sun down, so even on the short days it will get all of it. Smile
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Post  Little Thumb on 6/8/2010, 2:05 pm

Well for starts this is the average for the area, give or take.

Each winter, on average, your risk of frost is from September 15 through May 27.
Almost certainly, however, you will receive frost from October 1 through April 27.

You are almost guaranteed that you will not get frost from June 26 through August 31.

Your frost-free growing season is around 111 days.

Here in Kansas we have a growing season of about 179
days, so you have a little more then 2 months less growing time than we do.

You can grow SPUDS, Idaho SPUDS. I think you will do well with cool weather crops, like radish, lettuce, and your root crops. Don't plant tomatoes or peppers, eggplants, until your nights are well above freezing. They don't like the cold and will freeze to death even if it isn't feezing.

Do you have any idea of what you want to plant? You can always start things indoors.

Keep us posted.

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