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Post  Megan on 6/5/2010, 10:39 am

I am getting close to pulling a few of my cold weather crops. Is it too early to start fall brassicas? Any other good ideas for secondary crops?

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Re: Secondary crops

Post  Lavender Debs on 6/5/2010, 10:50 am

I'm not sure. My spinach will soon be coming out and I will replace it with kale. I was going to go with collards, but I'm not sure what they mean by "itchy sothern" It sounds like it hurts.

I am starting brussels sprouts so that they will be ready to go into the pea squares when they are through.....is that what you mean?

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Post  Megan on 6/5/2010, 11:02 am

Are you direct-seeding the kale? I guess what I am wondering is, are there any crops that are well-suited to starting around now.

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Post  AliSmith13 on 6/5/2010, 11:23 am

I have been wondering the exact same thing. What are good secondary crops and what is the earliest/latest you should start them?

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Post  nancy on 6/5/2010, 11:30 am

I just pulled my spinach out this morning and have no idea what to put there.

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Post  Lavender Debs on 6/5/2010, 11:31 am

Yes on the kale.

I have already put in a tomato where the bok choi was growing. Right now I have so much space to fill that I have not done a lot of succession squares. However, I am planning a winter garden and trying to plant according to what I want to harvest for Thanksgiving and have ready for next spring (onions, overwinter broccoli, leeks, etc)

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Post  Megan on 6/5/2010, 11:39 am



Rapini (soon to be eaten) and some baby bok choi that has bolted. I guess I need to plan for and/or understand what crops are good for the fall and what can be overwintered in my area, assuming no Snowmageddon like last year! I guess I will put in more radishes and lettuce, too, and try more chard and kolhrabi. I have chard and kolhrabi now and they are not doing well.

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Post  Chopper on 6/5/2010, 2:02 pm

It is going to vary depending on location but I found the following. What I do is keep a month to month grid of what can be planted when. It took some time to put together, but now I have it and refer to it all the time.


planting guide

plant and harvest calendar

planting links for zones 8-11

The main thing to know is how long til harvest and how much frost can it take and does it like or dislike the summer heat. And, of course, what your likely frost dates are.

The SFGs do really lend themselves to succession planting so I am sure there is something that can be planted. Whether it is too early for fall crops in your area I do not know.

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Post  herblover on 6/5/2010, 2:36 pm

I am in 5b and am planning on planting warm weather crops; my spinach and lettuces are still doing well, but I will be putting peppers where the radishes were as well as planting okra and some herbs. I will put in more lettuces and spinach and perhaps another planting of peas in August.

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Post  chocolatepop on 6/5/2010, 8:30 pm

I agree that is all depends on where you are. I know where I am I can start my brassicas from seed in julyish. I usually start them and then transplant so not to waste a square.

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Post  Megan on 6/6/2010, 8:51 am

Hmmm. Anyone tried growing chickpeas aka garbanzos? (Peas.... that's funny. I might get my FIRST peas by then!!)

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Post  nancy on 6/7/2010, 11:19 am

I've decided to try bush beans where my spinach was. I'm loving the snap peas and will be very sad when they are done. Might put pole beans there. Height is an issue for me as I'm only 5' tall, so hopefully they will grow back down after they grow up. Other than that, I'm undecided. I'd love a summer lettuce - maybe I can hide some behind the beans?

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Post  Megan on 6/7/2010, 6:18 pm

@nancy wrote:I've decided to try bush beans where my spinach was. I'm loving the snap peas and will be very sad when they are done. Might put pole beans there. Height is an issue for me as I'm only 5' tall, so hopefully they will grow back down after they grow up.

My pole limas are 5'3" and no indication that they will stop any time soon! I made my trellises 6' 6" (as I am 6' tall) and am thinking I should have gone higher, but I guess, as you say, they will just come back down again.

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Post  PeggyC on 6/7/2010, 7:38 pm

@Megan wrote:
@nancy wrote:I've decided to try bush beans where my spinach was. I'm loving the snap peas and will be very sad when they are done. Might put pole beans there. Height is an issue for me as I'm only 5' tall, so hopefully they will grow back down after they grow up.

My pole limas are 5'3" and no indication that they will stop any time soon! I made my trellises 6' 6" (as I am 6' tall) and am thinking I should have gone higher, but I guess, as you say, they will just come back down again.

Why didn't I read this about 2 hours ago before I went and bought materials for my 6' tall trellis? I'm 5'2". I guess I'll put one of my kids on my shoulders and hope they don't pull the whole thing down...

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Post  camprn on 6/7/2010, 7:43 pm

I put in a 10' Shocked trellis for my pole beans as I do not trust them to top out at the 8' described on the seed packet. I am 5'2" and have a 6 ' ladder. I think I need a taller ladder. :o

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Post  Megan on 6/7/2010, 7:48 pm

I think you do! Wink

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Post  ander217 on 6/7/2010, 7:49 pm

We just cleared 11 squares in our 4' x 4' x 1' box. DH wants to plant a late crop of potatoes, but we're having trouble finding seed potatoes. I'd like to plant some bush shellie beans - French Horticulture are my favorite, and DH likes baby green limas. (Yuck, phooey - lima beans, ...gag...)

Since he was so good to build my boxes I suppose I should hold my nose and plant some for him...

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Post  Megan on 6/7/2010, 7:56 pm

Here are the pole limas... may be hard to see, but the highest plant is just over the trunk of the white car in the photo in the middle of that wood fence. I have never grown pole beans before. What they seem to do is send up a tiny runner as fast as they can and then afterward the leaves fill out more slowly.



And, @ander217... I have hated limas for most of my life, I am only a recent convert. And these are SO pretty! link to pretty bean picture!

I am growing regular pole beans also (Cherokee Trail of Tears variety) and they are doing well, too, just not as aggressive growers as these limas are!

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Post  Chopper on 6/7/2010, 10:05 pm

Maybe we should make our trellises from ladders - the plants climb one side and we climb the other!

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