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Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I know I have learned more about the garden in the last few months than I have in my entire life, in no small part to all your contributions.
I learned that I need to have harvested all my beans before the japanese beatles get to the leaves
I learned that nylon fencing is no challenge for deer (but welded wire is fine)
I learned that deer have long tounges, but I can live with the lesser damage that tounges through welded wire do than feet and entire mouths
I learned the MM and sfg grows tomatoes on steroids - need to learn better staking methods
I learned that a broken heart (from deer munched gardens) can be mended by seeing a very new born fawn
I learned that I need to fear the rabbit at the bottom of my yard (and that my cat might be useful afterall)
I learned that almost anything is eadible
I learned children like growing and picking veges even if they don't like certain ones
I learned that my garden has an unbelievable amound of wildlife in it - more than I have ever seen before
I learned that none of us seem to be alone, and no matter what our gardening woes - someone here has shared it, can help it, or at the very least, can sympathise (or laugh along with you depending on the issue)
Thanks for enriching my garden heart!!!
I learned that I need to have harvested all my beans before the japanese beatles get to the leaves
I learned that nylon fencing is no challenge for deer (but welded wire is fine)
I learned that deer have long tounges, but I can live with the lesser damage that tounges through welded wire do than feet and entire mouths
I learned the MM and sfg grows tomatoes on steroids - need to learn better staking methods
I learned that a broken heart (from deer munched gardens) can be mended by seeing a very new born fawn
I learned that I need to fear the rabbit at the bottom of my yard (and that my cat might be useful afterall)
I learned that almost anything is eadible
I learned children like growing and picking veges even if they don't like certain ones
I learned that my garden has an unbelievable amound of wildlife in it - more than I have ever seen before
I learned that none of us seem to be alone, and no matter what our gardening woes - someone here has shared it, can help it, or at the very least, can sympathise (or laugh along with you depending on the issue)
Thanks for enriching my garden heart!!!
kiwirose-
Posts: 142
Join date: 2010-05-10
Age: 39
Location: Durham, NC
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I have learned that you really do need 5 types of compost
I have learned that taller is better for the beds.
I have learned that once all the hardwork of building the beds, mixing the mix and filling is done, there really isn't much to do but sit back and watch.
I have learned that this forum is addictive, LOL!
I have learned that taller is better for the beds.
I have learned that once all the hardwork of building the beds, mixing the mix and filling is done, there really isn't much to do but sit back and watch.
I have learned that this forum is addictive, LOL!

milaneyjane- Posts: 402
Join date: 2010-03-18
Location: MN Zone 4
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I've learned to harvest the spring brassicas before the flea beetles come out in June. (Or leave them, but expect them to become a trap crop.)
I've learned to build my trellises higher than I thought I needed to.
I learned that putting in an irrigation system by myself was much cheaper and easier than I dreamed...and it is one of my new favorite toys.
I learned to stake or tie down plants BEFORE the wind breaks them!!
I learned that starting seed in-ground is often slower, but plants seem to be healthier when you do...and they seem to catch up later.
I learned to put NO manure in my potato box.
I learned I can score free straw at our local feed store any time I ask, just bring a lawn/leaf bag, ask for loose/spoiled straw, and be prepared to hand-gather it out of a tractor trailer bed or off the ground.
I learned my veggie-hating hubby likes the garden and the harvests we have had so far.
I learned that sharing plants (and gardens) is great fun.
And, I learned what a wonderful community this forum is.... thank you all, so very much.
I've learned to build my trellises higher than I thought I needed to.
I learned that putting in an irrigation system by myself was much cheaper and easier than I dreamed...and it is one of my new favorite toys.
I learned to stake or tie down plants BEFORE the wind breaks them!!
I learned that starting seed in-ground is often slower, but plants seem to be healthier when you do...and they seem to catch up later.
I learned to put NO manure in my potato box.
I learned I can score free straw at our local feed store any time I ask, just bring a lawn/leaf bag, ask for loose/spoiled straw, and be prepared to hand-gather it out of a tractor trailer bed or off the ground.
I learned my veggie-hating hubby likes the garden and the harvests we have had so far.
I learned that sharing plants (and gardens) is great fun.
And, I learned what a wonderful community this forum is.... thank you all, so very much.

Megan-
Posts: 3350
Join date: 2010-04-27
Age: 45
Location: Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I learned:
Don't even think about an early cabbage crop. Cabbage loopers made lace of them. They were so bad I don't think even B.t. would have helped.
Don't plant carrots in adjacent squares around squash. They were too shaded and foilage rotted.
Heirloom tomatoes grow REALLY tall. Buy taller fence posts for staking next year. I thought about topping some of them, but I just couldn't cut off all those blooms. So far they are gracefully curving back toward the ground, I don't they will break when the fruit gets larger.
My cucumber trellises are 6' high. Cukes are 12+ feet long. They have grown up the trellis, across the top, back down & out into the path. They will get trimmed tonight. But I've made a bunch of pickles.
Roma bush beans are more like a half-runner bean, at least in the Mel's mix. I won't plant them as close next year. The center ones didn't get enough sun & didn't produce much.
Don't alternate squares with tomato/pepper/tomato..... I'll leave one blank square between each tomato & plant peppers side by side in another section.
I love not having to weed. Even with composted manure from a dairy, I have had very few weeds & it's wonderful.
I'll put in a drip irrigation system before next season. It has been horribly hot here & I have to water daily & with the plants so big it does take a while to get it all finished.
I planted one entire 4 x 12 bed with October beans (a dried bean, aka Horticultural bean) that you plant & leave all season til they dry up before picking. Now I've thought of other things I would like to have put there & it seems such a waste of space. I'll just buy them from the grocery store next year.
Plant cilantro every other week. Even with cutting it daily it still bolted.
I'll never go back to row gardening.
The forum is addictive & I love it.
Don't even think about an early cabbage crop. Cabbage loopers made lace of them. They were so bad I don't think even B.t. would have helped.
Don't plant carrots in adjacent squares around squash. They were too shaded and foilage rotted.
Heirloom tomatoes grow REALLY tall. Buy taller fence posts for staking next year. I thought about topping some of them, but I just couldn't cut off all those blooms. So far they are gracefully curving back toward the ground, I don't they will break when the fruit gets larger.
My cucumber trellises are 6' high. Cukes are 12+ feet long. They have grown up the trellis, across the top, back down & out into the path. They will get trimmed tonight. But I've made a bunch of pickles.
Roma bush beans are more like a half-runner bean, at least in the Mel's mix. I won't plant them as close next year. The center ones didn't get enough sun & didn't produce much.
Don't alternate squares with tomato/pepper/tomato..... I'll leave one blank square between each tomato & plant peppers side by side in another section.
I love not having to weed. Even with composted manure from a dairy, I have had very few weeds & it's wonderful.
I'll put in a drip irrigation system before next season. It has been horribly hot here & I have to water daily & with the plants so big it does take a while to get it all finished.
I planted one entire 4 x 12 bed with October beans (a dried bean, aka Horticultural bean) that you plant & leave all season til they dry up before picking. Now I've thought of other things I would like to have put there & it seems such a waste of space. I'll just buy them from the grocery store next year.
Plant cilantro every other week. Even with cutting it daily it still bolted.
I'll never go back to row gardening.
The forum is addictive & I love it.

dixie-
Posts: 681
Join date: 2010-03-02
Age: 63
Location: Southeast Tennessee

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
dont use a heat lamp
plan out your garden layout before you plant to maximize space
store my seeds better
thin root seedlings quicker or end up with some wonky carrots!
get the kid involved. even if it means ended up with a 16sf area with random plantings of beans, carrots, radishes, peas....
ANYTHING can be used in a garden if you are creative. I find my self garbage hunting for things like crib side rails, ladders, fencing...
put in drip irrigation/soaker hose before planting
i can build boxes with a cast on
tulle works great to protect against cabbage moth larvae
love to purchase compost by the yard
in 85% heat, beans sprout in 2 days
seed exchanging is FUN
potatoes are crazy and will grow anywhere
always look for volunteer tomatoes
turnip leaves can get huge and grow faster than beets so dont put them in adjacent squares
peas are a grumpy crop sometimes
home grown lettuce ROCKS
plan out your garden layout before you plant to maximize space
store my seeds better
thin root seedlings quicker or end up with some wonky carrots!
get the kid involved. even if it means ended up with a 16sf area with random plantings of beans, carrots, radishes, peas....
ANYTHING can be used in a garden if you are creative. I find my self garbage hunting for things like crib side rails, ladders, fencing...
put in drip irrigation/soaker hose before planting
i can build boxes with a cast on
tulle works great to protect against cabbage moth larvae
love to purchase compost by the yard
in 85% heat, beans sprout in 2 days
seed exchanging is FUN
potatoes are crazy and will grow anywhere
always look for volunteer tomatoes
turnip leaves can get huge and grow faster than beets so dont put them in adjacent squares
peas are a grumpy crop sometimes
home grown lettuce ROCKS

chocolatepop-
Posts: 768
Join date: 2010-03-11
Age: 32
Location: Flint Area, Michigan (zone 5a-5b)

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
Keep better track of labeling seedlings,
some of my tomato plants are not what I labeled them.
I've learned to use lime and epson salt when you prepare the beds, so tomatoes aren't loss due to blossom end rot.
Space tomato plants much further apart, as Mel's Mix makes them shoot up like rockets.
Next year, only 2 tomato plants will be in my sfg...at opposite ends.
Tomatoes need shade down here, as it hits and holds around 100 degrees very early.
Pinch, pinch, pinch suckers on tomato plants.
Have trellis system in place when I plant.
The squash borer was impossible to defeat organically, next year all squash will be enclosed w/ netting or something.
I'm crazy about row cover.
I just love to see corn stalks in the garden, even if I only have 2 ears of dry corn from 16 plants.
Have soaker hoses set in beds by early spring.
Now, I can squish bugs and not be grossed out so much.
I no longer run from bees, they can buzz all around me and I just ignore them as long as they stay focused on the flowers. MOST AMAZING.
I must garden.
It's part of who I am.
I can grow something year round. Who knew?
Stay tuned in to this forum.
Make way more Mel's Mix.
some of my tomato plants are not what I labeled them.
I've learned to use lime and epson salt when you prepare the beds, so tomatoes aren't loss due to blossom end rot.
Space tomato plants much further apart, as Mel's Mix makes them shoot up like rockets.
Next year, only 2 tomato plants will be in my sfg...at opposite ends.
Tomatoes need shade down here, as it hits and holds around 100 degrees very early.
Pinch, pinch, pinch suckers on tomato plants.
Have trellis system in place when I plant.
The squash borer was impossible to defeat organically, next year all squash will be enclosed w/ netting or something.
I'm crazy about row cover.
I just love to see corn stalks in the garden, even if I only have 2 ears of dry corn from 16 plants.
Have soaker hoses set in beds by early spring.
Now, I can squish bugs and not be grossed out so much.
I no longer run from bees, they can buzz all around me and I just ignore them as long as they stay focused on the flowers. MOST AMAZING.
I must garden.
I can grow something year round. Who knew?
Stay tuned in to this forum.
Make way more Mel's Mix.

1chichi- Posts: 151
Join date: 2010-04-24
Location: SuNnY SoutH CaRoLiNa
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
Kohlrabi is not a root vegetable, so I should have worried when the bunnies were nibbling the leaves off
The first fuzzy things out of my corn are not silk, but are tassel - who knew
The tassel is not covered in little worms that need to be removed and squished. Just because they look like all the other little worms.
If you sit your container of leeks on the soil while deciding where to plant them, they will plant themselves - container and all.
Rabbits are far more destructive than deer, and no matter what they do to my garden, they are still pretty darn cute!
You have to visit your garden every day to find out what it is telling you.
Everything out of the garden, even the poc marked vegetables, are tastier than from the grocery store!!
Yes, bees are wonderful, I've even built a home for the native bees out of bamboo. Honey bees next??
A day without visiting my garden is not a complete day
Sleep well my lovelies
The first fuzzy things out of my corn are not silk, but are tassel - who knew
The tassel is not covered in little worms that need to be removed and squished. Just because they look like all the other little worms.
If you sit your container of leeks on the soil while deciding where to plant them, they will plant themselves - container and all.
Rabbits are far more destructive than deer, and no matter what they do to my garden, they are still pretty darn cute!
You have to visit your garden every day to find out what it is telling you.
Everything out of the garden, even the poc marked vegetables, are tastier than from the grocery store!!
Yes, bees are wonderful, I've even built a home for the native bees out of bamboo. Honey bees next??
A day without visiting my garden is not a complete day
Sleep well my lovelies

dmpower-
Posts: 82
Join date: 2010-04-06
Location: 5b Bloomington Indiana
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
A garden hath charms to soothe the savage breast and is cheaper than a shrink - but just barely the first year.
Tomatoes let no light through so be very aware of what is being planted around them.
Snails don't care about your problems.
The smell of good compost is irresistible to a dog and they need to dig it up to see what's in there.
Six inches of rich soil can work wonders.
A lunch of a few beets and some carrots and beans with a little butter can be very satisfying.
A fresh potato cannot be beat. And you will never find beans as tender as the garden beans.
Vines can get much taller than you would think. Need to plan for it.
Compost happens.
Luxury is having your own herb garden.
Tomatoes let no light through so be very aware of what is being planted around them.
Snails don't care about your problems.
The smell of good compost is irresistible to a dog and they need to dig it up to see what's in there.
Six inches of rich soil can work wonders.
A lunch of a few beets and some carrots and beans with a little butter can be very satisfying.
A fresh potato cannot be beat. And you will never find beans as tender as the garden beans.
Vines can get much taller than you would think. Need to plan for it.
Compost happens.
Luxury is having your own herb garden.
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Chopper-
Posts: 2293
Join date: 2010-05-05
Age: 57
Location: French Valley, CA USDA Zone 9 Sunset Zone 18

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
Nest year I will plant my spinach up front where it is more reaily reached/cut.
I will plant carrots (the garden-sloth) in the back where I won't have to reach around it.
Brussel Sprout plants are HUGE!
What an adventure; I love gardening with the SFG method!
I will plant carrots (the garden-sloth) in the back where I won't have to reach around it.
Brussel Sprout plants are HUGE!
What an adventure; I love gardening with the SFG method!
new2this-
Posts: 215
Join date: 2010-03-05
Age: 37
Location: southeast MN, zone 4a
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
One 4' x 8' box was okay to run a trial, but it isn't really enough...enough to keep us in a few veg through the summer, but another 4x8 will be built this fall/next spring.
My border stakes aren't strong enough to make a really good box. It's not bad, but I'll built a box this fall (and my new box at the same time!)
Carrots are really, really slow, and will be planted in the middle because they're just hogging the up-front space.
Radishes are fun because they grow overnight, it seems.
I forgot how much I love the smell of tomato vines.
Cutworms are my mortal enemy.
Starting an SFG gave me the spark to dig up a forlorn, neglected flower bed and fill it full of pretty things. (It's not an SFG, but it's actually thriving...even the glads I never thought would sprout.)
Playing in my garden is a lot more fun than Farmville (but I'll keep FV for the winter when I can't go out and play in the soil.)
My husband never thought he'd hear me ask for a greenhouse for my birthday...but I want one so I can grow stuff into the winter.
My border stakes aren't strong enough to make a really good box. It's not bad, but I'll built a box this fall (and my new box at the same time!)
Carrots are really, really slow, and will be planted in the middle because they're just hogging the up-front space.
Radishes are fun because they grow overnight, it seems.
I forgot how much I love the smell of tomato vines.
Cutworms are my mortal enemy.
Starting an SFG gave me the spark to dig up a forlorn, neglected flower bed and fill it full of pretty things. (It's not an SFG, but it's actually thriving...even the glads I never thought would sprout.)
Playing in my garden is a lot more fun than Farmville (but I'll keep FV for the winter when I can't go out and play in the soil.)
My husband never thought he'd hear me ask for a greenhouse for my birthday...but I want one so I can grow stuff into the winter.
LaFee-
Posts: 1023
Join date: 2010-03-03
Location: France
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I learned that if I had to buy rebar for my trellises again, I wouldn't have bothered to cut 4 foot lengths of rebar in half. I would have pounded in the 4-ft lengths as deeply as I could, and then just let it be.

Megan-
Posts: 3350
Join date: 2010-04-27
Age: 45
Location: Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
every person that posted has hit at least one of my nails on the head!
I will go with, primarily, I also need to do a much better job of labeling my tomatoes. I have at least 10 plants that I'll find out what they are (I hope) when the tomatoes finish ripening.
I will go with, primarily, I also need to do a much better job of labeling my tomatoes. I have at least 10 plants that I'll find out what they are (I hope) when the tomatoes finish ripening.

martha-
Posts: 1783
Join date: 2010-03-03
Age: 55
Location: Acton, Massachusetts Zone 5b/6a
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
Toothpicks to foil cutworms is easier than wrapping with collars of paper. Just place one on each side of a stem and bury into the ground halfway, leaving half above the soil level. The cutworms cannot curl around the stems.
Putting seedlings in air-pruning pots made from 2-litre soda bottles makes it easy to transplant into the garden. I just water, then slide them out. Roots are not disturbed and there is no girdling or root-bound seedlings because the roots won't grow past the air slits.
Using Heavy row cover in spring can protect my seedlings down to 28* so helps me start crops earlier and in the fall it will make my crops last longer as well.
Using light row cover (insect barrier) foils many insects and protects my plants. I only have to remove the cover when they blossom so they can pollinate, but if I use Q-tips to pollinate them myself, every day for a few days, I can cover them back up against insect pests.
Coming here is a pleasure to learn new tricks and tips from others having the same problems and learning by trial and error like myself. I check in every day to see how my gardening 'friends' are doing.
The pictures posted here are worth a thousand words.
Putting seedlings in air-pruning pots made from 2-litre soda bottles makes it easy to transplant into the garden. I just water, then slide them out. Roots are not disturbed and there is no girdling or root-bound seedlings because the roots won't grow past the air slits.
Using Heavy row cover in spring can protect my seedlings down to 28* so helps me start crops earlier and in the fall it will make my crops last longer as well.
Using light row cover (insect barrier) foils many insects and protects my plants. I only have to remove the cover when they blossom so they can pollinate, but if I use Q-tips to pollinate them myself, every day for a few days, I can cover them back up against insect pests.
Coming here is a pleasure to learn new tricks and tips from others having the same problems and learning by trial and error like myself. I check in every day to see how my gardening 'friends' are doing.
The pictures posted here are worth a thousand words.

quiltbea-
Posts: 2493
Join date: 2010-03-21
Age: 70
Location: Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I am so glad I started SFG out last year in the fall here in the DFW area. Our SFG last fall grew so successfully.
With this year's spring into summer it became a different matter. Bugs, heat, bugs, heat. My goodness!
We recently had a break in our weather last week (dropped to the 80s, like the fall here) and our garden went into overdrive.
I would have been so discouraged if I had started out in a Spring like this year and not have had some successes. I knew the best was yet to come for our region this fall.
So I learned we need to "go with the flow" and the best may be yet to come.
Jane
With this year's spring into summer it became a different matter. Bugs, heat, bugs, heat. My goodness!
We recently had a break in our weather last week (dropped to the 80s, like the fall here) and our garden went into overdrive.
I would have been so discouraged if I had started out in a Spring like this year and not have had some successes. I knew the best was yet to come for our region this fall.
So I learned we need to "go with the flow" and the best may be yet to come.
Jane

janefss2002-
Posts: 112
Join date: 2010-03-02
Age: 54
Location: Garland, Texas Zone 7b/8a
Re: Care to share what you have learned in the last few months?
I've learned that catnip is slow growing and if planted too close to fast growing beans, won't do well.
Eggplants spread. Next year I stake or cage.
Carrots and onions are sloooooow growing.
Not having to weed is fantastic!
Eggplants spread. Next year I stake or cage.
Carrots and onions are sloooooow growing.
Not having to weed is fantastic!
The Cat's Other Mother-
Posts: 142
Join date: 2010-05-17
Location: Decatur, GA, Zone 7B
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