Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» First Frost!
by littlejo Yesterday at 9:23 pm

» N&C Midwest; November Already? 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:34 pm

» How Many Square Feet Do You Have?
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:28 pm

» Senseless Banter...
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 6:38 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY #5 - ENDS 11/17/17
by brianj555 Yesterday at 4:12 pm

» Microgreens Gardening
by Kelejan Yesterday at 3:30 pm

» My new compost heap
by Kelejan Yesterday at 3:20 pm

» What I learned this year
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:45 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 9:26 am

» Today's Harvest
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 8:44 am

» First Tromboncino female flower
by countrynaturals 11/17/2017, 5:51 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver 11/17/2017, 1:59 pm

» Free lunaria seeds
by hammock gal 11/17/2017, 10:12 am

» The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic
by BeetlesPerSqFt 11/17/2017, 9:17 am

» Happy Birthday!!
by brianj555 11/17/2017, 8:30 am

» Plastic containers / trash cans?
by sanderson 11/16/2017, 10:33 pm

» Mels book
by Scorpio Rising 11/16/2017, 7:04 pm

» Mid-Atl - Nov 2017 - Warming Up AGAIN?
by sanderson 11/16/2017, 4:17 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by Turan 11/15/2017, 4:59 pm

» Goodbye to my SFG Raised Beds
by Turan 11/15/2017, 4:41 pm

» Pickle recipes
by sanderson 11/15/2017, 4:12 am

» What variety of avocado would you recommend?
by dstack 11/14/2017, 9:12 pm

» Tomato Questions
by Scorpio Rising 11/14/2017, 8:26 pm

» Saffron?
by plantoid 11/14/2017, 3:32 pm

» Free Sunchoke Tubers
by BeetlesPerSqFt 11/13/2017, 6:36 pm

» who has chickens
by AtlantaMarie 11/12/2017, 10:40 am

» Huge Box of Seeds from 2003!
by countrynaturals 11/11/2017, 10:17 pm

» New England Nov 2017
by Scorpio Rising 11/11/2017, 6:38 pm

» Veterans Day 2017 - SALUTE!
by Scorpio Rising 11/11/2017, 6:22 pm

» Comfrey
by sanderson 11/11/2017, 5:17 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

collards and broccoli question

View previous topic View next topic Go down

collards and broccoli question

Post  kshimpi on 9/22/2010, 8:18 pm

My garden has been doing well, even with all the heat we have had. My only area of difficulty is the collards. It looks like something is eating them. I have had the dome netting on all the
time, so I am thinking it is some kind of bug. Here is a pic if that helps.



Also, what is the timeline for broccoli? The leaves of the plant are growing, but when will I get some actual broccoli?

I updated my flickr site for those that are keeping up with my progress :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kshimpi/sets/72157624695599142/
avatar
kshimpi

Posts : 63
Join date : 2010-08-09
Location : zone 7-8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  Furbalsmom on 9/22/2010, 8:49 pm

Did you start your broccoli from seeds? It takes about 16 weeks from seed to harvest. Transplants about 10 weeks to harvest.

Loved your flickr pictures. What a great way to get kids in the garden, right from the beginning.

Sorry I don't know what type of bug is causing the damage to your collards. Do you have a County Extension office of the state university that you can call, or Master Gardeners, who have been trained thru Extension Programs, sometimes show up at local Farmer's Markets.
avatar
Furbalsmom

Female Posts : 3141
Join date : 2010-06-10
Age : 70
Location : Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  kshimpi on 9/22/2010, 9:36 pm

My broccoli were from transplants (thought it would take too long from seed in our area in the fall). Will check with some local gardeners about the collards...thanks :-)
avatar
kshimpi

Posts : 63
Join date : 2010-08-09
Location : zone 7-8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  Megan on 9/22/2010, 10:13 pm

Do you happen to have noticed any pretty white butterflies with black dots on their wings?
avatar
Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 50
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  chocolatepop on 9/22/2010, 10:39 pm

@Megan wrote:Do you happen to have noticed any pretty white butterflies with black dots on their wings?

this, looks like cabbage worms to me. Take a CLOSE look and see if you see any little green 'pillars hanging around...
avatar
chocolatepop

Female Posts : 768
Join date : 2010-03-11
Age : 38
Location : Flint Area, Michigan (zone 5a-5b)

View user profile http://chocolatepopsurbangarden.wordpress.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  Megan on 9/22/2010, 10:48 pm

@chocolatepop wrote:
@Megan wrote:Do you happen to have noticed any pretty white butterflies with black dots on their wings?

this, looks like cabbage worms to me. Take a CLOSE look and see if you see any little green 'pillars hanging around...

That's what I thought, too, but I didn't want to be the first to say it, as I've never seen the damage first hand before. (Except something is eating my cabbage, too!)
avatar
Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 50
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  ribarr4 on 9/22/2010, 11:14 pm

@chocolatepop wrote:
@Megan wrote:Do you happen to have noticed any pretty white butterflies with black dots on their wings?

this, looks like cabbage worms to me. Take a CLOSE look and see if you see any little green 'pillars hanging around...

It does look like it might be cabbage worms. If it is you can find them in the mornings lined up along the top sides of the stems. They are green and sometimes hard to find. If you can't find them look on the underside of the leaves for another caterpillar that is black and white with an orange or yellow stripe down it's sides. I don't know what they are called, but they love to munch on greens and broccoli.

Let me know if you find it is something else.
avatar
ribarr4

Male Posts : 117
Join date : 2010-09-17
Location : Middle TN

View user profile http://www.green-cityzen.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  kshimpi on 9/23/2010, 6:39 am

I will give a close inspection once the sun comes up. What can I do to get rid of them?
avatar
kshimpi

Posts : 63
Join date : 2010-08-09
Location : zone 7-8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

cabbage worm control

Post  ander217 on 9/23/2010, 8:47 am

Bacillus thuringiensis insecticide. I've purchased it as Dipel, but I checked online this morning and it can be purchased under the names of Biobit, Dipel, MVP, Steward, and Thuricide.

It is an organic insecticide and it doesn't harm people, pets, honeybees, or predatory insects. It's pretty much targeted against worms.

It takes a couple of days to kill the worms, but they stop eating once they eat enough of it to make them sick, so even though you may still see them on the plants, if you've gotten good coverage they should disappear in two or three days.

I saw it at Lowe's in the spring, but I'm having trouble finding it in my area this fall. I see a trip to the big garden center in my future which is an hour away.
avatar
ander217

Female Posts : 1450
Join date : 2010-03-16
Age : 62
Location : Southeastern Missouri (6b)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  plb on 9/23/2010, 11:04 am

If they're caterpillars, and you don't have a massive number of plants, you can just pick them up and squish them (use thin latex gloves if you're squeamish). Cheaper and as effective. They are often exactly the same color as the plant, so you'll need to keep checking since some will likely escape the first rounds. Also, you might find the little eggs that the cabbage butterflies deposit on the underside of the leaves, and you should remove those too.
Also, you might have snails/slugs, those like to nibble at these plants when they're still small.
I don't know about collards, but broccoli takes a loooong time to start producing heads. You'll probably start thinking that it's never going to happen, and then after a bit it will!

plb

Posts : 111
Join date : 2010-03-08
Location : England (South)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  kshimpi on 9/24/2010, 9:08 am

evil cabbage worms, you must die!



Got some spray at Southern States yesterday, sprayed the leaves that were not totally swiss cheese this am. Hope this is the solution.
avatar
kshimpi

Posts : 63
Join date : 2010-08-09
Location : zone 7-8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  ribarr4 on 9/24/2010, 10:10 am

They are the caterpillars that I was talking about. I have been gardening for over 15 years and they just started showing up here in TN a few years ago. They make a beautiful little moth. Does anyone know what these are called? Cabbage worms are actually the color of the cabbage plant, which makes them harder to see sometimes.
avatar
ribarr4

Male Posts : 117
Join date : 2010-09-17
Location : Middle TN

View user profile http://www.green-cityzen.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: collards and broccoli question

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum