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Post  Sharpy on 3/2/2010, 11:50 am

I have recently gotten into vegetable gardening and very much enjoyed the original Square Foot Gardening book. I had been speaking to my wife about possibly buying the New
Square Foot Gardening book. A few days later, she returned from our
local Dollar Store with a copy of the New Square Foot Gardening Book.
She said she paid just $5 for the book and in fact it had a large $5
sticker on the front. I buy most of my books from Amazon and knew that
that was more than half of Amazon's price, something did not add up.

In looking into it further I found that both the Square Foot Gardening website and
Amazon's, note the book as being 272 pages, however this copy is only
172 pages. In addition, the ISBN number does not match that on Amazon's
website nor does it appear in any Google search for that ISBN number.

Is this book counterfeit or something?

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Worth Looking into...

Post  jinx on 3/2/2010, 12:13 pm

I wonder if it was a misprint? That would explain why it is short pages and why you'd find it at your local discount store. Discount stores are famous for getting stuff that can't be sold any where else. It is worth looking into though, I'd be curious about it myself.

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  boffer on 3/2/2010, 12:45 pm

We were just talking about that last night. There are some other printings out there that are legal, according to Mel. Some are in black and white!

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  Sharpy on 3/2/2010, 12:54 pm

The book is absolutely NOT "OK"...it is missing 100 pages!!!

A "misprint" or a "legal" version of the same book that is missing nearly 100 pages? That seems suspicious.....

I have looked at it very closely and there is no indication that it is a different version it looks just like the one on Amazon.

I think it wrong to market something as something it is not....one-third of the book missing is dishonest and just plain wrong.

If this is a "special" two-third version, it needs to be maked as so...wouldn't this be considered false advertising?

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  SquareFoot on 3/2/2010, 2:24 pm

Sharpy wrote:I have recently gotten into vegetable gardening and very much enjoyed the original Square Foot Gardening book. I had been speaking to my wife about possibly buying the New
Square Foot Gardening book. A few days later, she returned from our
local Dollar Store with a copy of the New Square Foot Gardening Book.
She said she paid just $5 for the book and in fact it had a large $5
sticker on the front. I buy most of my books from Amazon and knew that
that was more than half of Amazon's price, something did not add up.

In looking into it further I found that both the Square Foot Gardening website and
Amazon's, note the book as being 272 pages, however this copy is only
172 pages. In addition, the ISBN number does not match that on Amazon's
website nor does it appear in any Google search for that ISBN number.

Is this book counterfeit or something?


Howdy, This is Alan from the Square Foot Gardening Foundation. Can you do me a favor and scan the front,back page and a couple of inside pages of this $5 book and email them to me? at:alan@squarefootgardening.com I am really interested to see what this is about. Thanks Alan Smile

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  boog on 3/2/2010, 3:31 pm

i bought the same book at dollar genral the "suggested retail price" is/was $14.95 if i hadent seen it the last time i was in there i might not be here so if it is not "THE" sfg bible, it got me here so its a good thing.

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  Sharpy on 3/2/2010, 9:20 pm

Admin wrote:Howdy, This is Alan from the Square Foot Gardening Foundation. Can you do me a favor and scan the front,back page and a couple of inside pages of this $5 book and email them to me? at:alan@squarefootgardening.com I am really interested to see what this is about. Thanks Alan Smile





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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  SquareFoot on 3/2/2010, 9:26 pm

thank you. This looks just like our book. I wonder if cool springs press(the publisher) is making some type of small version of the book. I'll look into it. Thanks guys!

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Post  samantha on 3/4/2010, 9:34 am

I also bought this book and gave it to a friend. I hope it is the right information.

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  jerzyjen on 3/4/2010, 12:06 pm

I don't have my book with me at work so I can't say for sure, but I believe it is probably the last 100 pages that I use THE MOST for reference. The back of my book has several planting charts and an quick reference index of common plant types in alphabetical order. For example you can flip to "tomatos" and there is a half page summary on planting info (how many per square, seasons they can be grown in, what family they are etc...)

If this part of your book is missing, I would highly recommend forking out the money and getting it from Amazon, Borders or any other reputable book seller. These pages of my book have the most crinkled pages and mel's mix stains (yes I've been known to actually take outside with me).

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  happyfrog on 3/5/2010, 6:33 am

i'm intrigued now - anyone have answer on what's missing from the discount book?

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  Retired Member 1 on 3/6/2010, 12:15 pm

I just purchased the Dollar General book. There are 9 chapters ending at page 162. Folowed by "Mel's Final Summary". Then 9 pages of charts including germination times, Spring planting times, Planting schedules for continuous harvest crops, Fall planting guide, and At a Glance, which summarizes the planting spacing, time to harvest, etc. for a variety of veggies, herbs and some flowers. What is definitely missing is the in-depth guides for individual plants found in the original book, but that only took up 70 pages, so I have no idea where an additional 30 might have gotten to.

How many chapters are in the full book? Do they correspond to the Table of Contents picture in a previous post? Does chapter 9 - Extending the Seasons - begin on or close to pg. 149?

I do believe that this version has everything someone needs to know about square foot gardening, but I'm not sure how ethical it is to have the exact same title and cover but in a shortened book. If I were the publisher, I would have named it a condensed version or even "lite" to distinquish it from the full version. OTOH, this might reach more people at the $5.00 price. The retail price is $14.95 vs. $19.95 for the full version, so at least the price is lower to begin with.

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Differences

Post  Retired Member 1 on 3/6/2010, 12:29 pm

Ah, just checked the Amazon "look inside" feature. One large difference is chap. 8 - Vertical gardening - is only 3 pages long vs. 20 pages in the full version. and chap. 10 is completely missing as is the appendix and index. Also, it appears the regular book has colour inside and this one is all b&w. Shame that there isn't more on vertical gardening -- even the directions on how to build the trellis is very scant. My take on it all is if someone has the original SFG book, then this condensed version is fine. But if someone is just starting out, pay the extra and get the full version.

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  Sharpy on 3/26/2010, 8:30 pm

It's been several weeks now....what is the official word on this rip-off?

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Re: Counterfit New Square Foot Gardening Book?

Post  Anstar on 3/26/2010, 8:59 pm

It looks to me to be a misprint... The ISBN is not registered in any of the directories I'm familiar with. Also, there's a typo for the publisher's website - the back cover says coolspringspress.net instead of coolspringspress.com.

As a consumer, is your question weather this book contains all of the same information? From what others have posted, it doesn't. Still, a lot of the basics are there.

Course, who doesn't love a scandal? I wonder too if Mel gets his royalties off this printing. Though, I'm sure it isn't any of my business.

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