Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Dry versus fresh spices to infuse vinegar
by sanderson Today at 2:47 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by CapeCoddess Today at 2:39 pm

» Second Year SFG in Canada
by CapeCoddess Today at 2:28 pm

» Eat Broccoli Leaves? Brussels Sprouts? Cauliflower?
by CapeCoddess Today at 2:25 pm

» Asia Region -Showcase of Gardens - Show Us Yours
by sanderson Today at 2:14 pm

» 1st Seed Catalog Arrived :)
by trolleydriver Today at 1:37 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by trolleydriver Today at 1:29 pm

» New England, December 2016
by CapeCoddess Today at 1:26 pm

» December 2016 Avatar: Show your Winter Season Colors!
by countrynaturals Today at 1:22 pm

» December: What to plant in Northern California and Central Valley areas
by countrynaturals Today at 1:13 pm

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania
by countrynaturals Today at 12:52 pm

» Senseless Banter...
by trolleydriver Today at 11:59 am

» Your Christmas wish list?
by BeetlesPerSqFt Today at 11:15 am

» Holy snow Batman!
by Robbomb116 Today at 10:18 am

» Live and learn
by jimmy cee Today at 10:11 am

» 2016 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by AtlantaMarie Today at 5:51 am

» N&C Midwest: December 2016
by AtlantaMarie Today at 5:44 am

» Winter Gardens - Photos
by sanderson Today at 3:55 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing December 2016
by Kelejan Yesterday at 11:54 pm

» Log In
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 5:23 pm

» Winter's Coming!
by donnainzone5 Yesterday at 4:52 pm

» SFG Adventure of a first time gardener in ND
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 3:41 pm

» Gnome Pumpkin Pie
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:22 pm

» Mid-Atl - Dec 2016 - Seed Catalog ?
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 1:17 pm

» Mid-South: December 2016
by AtlantaMarie Yesterday at 7:15 am

» Greenhouse dreams
by trolleydriver 11/30/2016, 11:18 am

» putting your raised garden beds to bed for Winter
by jimmy cee 11/30/2016, 8:46 am

» last chance to pre-order baker seeds-rare seed catalog
by trolleydriver 11/30/2016, 8:30 am

» Mid-South: November 2016
by AtlantaMarie 11/30/2016, 6:33 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by sanderson 11/30/2016, 2:33 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

Three Sisters

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Three Sisters

Post  florenceq on 1/22/2011, 12:20 am

Has anyone every planted a three sisters garden? WHat ype of corn, bean and squash did you use?

florenceq

Female Posts : 69
Join date : 2010-12-27
Age : 44
Location : Santee, CA 92071

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Chopper on 1/22/2011, 4:58 am

I did and I can tell you what not to do. I planted silver queen corn and Kentucky Wonder pole beans and zucchini. I knew zucchini was not the usual. A vine squash makes more sense because the idea is that it spreads throughout the corn stalks and benefits from the shade.

I planted the beans and corn at the same time. Next time I would plant the corn earlier so it has a chance to grow a bit before the beans were planted. The beans grew so fast they almost outpaced the corn.

I did all of this on a 4X4 square. I planted 4 corn per square and left 4 squares just for the zucchini. I got a good harvest from all but it was a little awkward due to the previously mentioned boo-boos. And there are A LOT of beans and I was unable to keep up with them preserving-wise.

Do not do:
4 per square was a little much for the corn. Two would probably be better although I would like to hear what was successful for others.
Do not use zucchini as your squash - use a vine type squash.
Plant beans later than corn and limit it to the outer squares for ease of harvesting



Chopper

Female Posts : 2467
Join date : 2010-05-05
Age : 61
Location : Warner Springs, CA USDA Zone 8a, Sunset Zone 7 (I think)

View user profile http://thezimmermannfamilytoo.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Megan on 1/22/2011, 8:49 am

I did, too.

I used
Sweet Country Gentleman Corn
Cherokee Trail of Tears pole beans
Christmas pole lima beans
Early crookneck summer squash
Rampicante (zucchini) squash

First of all.... do not (I repeat NOT!!!) ever, ever, and I mean never, use rampicante in a 3 sisters. Trust me on this one. I learned it the hard way.

Zucchini (such as rampicante) CAN grow as a vine, Chopper. Smile

I agree with Chopper about the corn. I planted the beans and the corn at the same time, and the beans grew much faster than the corn. By the time my corn got to 8-10 feet, the beans were trained onto a trellis as otherwise I'd have had a disaster on my hands.

I did some reading and I think the corn that is best suited to Three Sisters is not sweet corn at all, but flint / dent varieties. The name that comes up most often is Hickory King. I've never grown it but I think it gets really big, and may grow faster than sweet corn.

I did a 4x4 also, with the center 4 squares for corn, 2 squares of beans, and everything else for the squash. (I did sneak in some cilantro, radishes, etc. before the other plants got big.)

My corn grew well but didn't ripen as I'd hoped.
My crookneck died young, I think from SVB.
Beans and rampicante did well.

My notes:

Again, never use rampicante in a Three Sisters.

The two types of pole beans were planted in opposing corners of the 4x4. They ended up growing into each other. This was a problem for me because one finished before the other one, and I'd wanted to salvage the finished square, but it was impossible to extract all the vines from the still-growing stuff, and the dead stuff kinda strangled the living. (Nevertheless I still got a good harvest from both.) I think if I tried this again, I would use only one type of pole bean so growing habit is consistent.

The other thing I noticed about the pole beans and corn was that the beans actually BROKE OFF some of the corn tassels. They just climbed right up there and boom, next thing you know, broken corn. (Yes, I did say I trained the beans onto trellises. But once they really got going, they latched onto the corn anyway.)

I agree with Chopper on corn per square. My corn was an heirloom and ended up with 1 or 2 per square. I think with some more modern varieties you might be able to squeeze in more. The older types are "bushy" and need more space. The root balls are quite large. (Boffer has photos somewhere, I am still trying to find them.)


Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 49
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  quiltbea on 1/22/2011, 12:26 pm

Thanks for the good advice about 3 sisters gardening.
I plan to have a plot with corn, which I will remember to start a couple weeks earlier than the beans, some kind of pole bean, and a very small pie pumpkin for the squash part.
Mine will also be a bit different because it will be in our Community Garden which is strictly row gardening. They prefer that method so they can bring in a plow to till and add manures and put the whole thing to bed in the winter.
This year I don't have the room to assign blocks of my raised beds to such a venture.
I love seeing and hearing about the raised beds, though.
I may try it at home next year but my plans are all made for 2011 and they don't include 3 sisters planting.
Thanks again for the advice and pictures.

quiltbea

Female Posts : 4613
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 74
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Megan on 1/22/2011, 12:30 pm

Good luck, quiltbea! Corn, squash and beans are among my favorite things, whether they are grown together or not. Smile

Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 49
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Selandra on 1/22/2011, 8:06 pm

Just out of curiousity... can you use watermelon instead of squash? My squash is doing great on the trellis but my melon didn't make it so I plan to leave her on the ground this year. I'm planting corn in a non SFG area near my barn and thought of trying this method for fun.

Selandra

Female Posts : 123
Join date : 2010-03-02
Age : 38
Location : KY (6a)

View user profile http://www.asfggardenerstale.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Chopper on 1/22/2011, 11:09 pm

I would think watermelon would qualify. It has the same habits and care requirements.

Chopper

Female Posts : 2467
Join date : 2010-05-05
Age : 61
Location : Warner Springs, CA USDA Zone 8a, Sunset Zone 7 (I think)

View user profile http://thezimmermannfamilytoo.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Megan on 1/22/2011, 11:40 pm


Three? You must be using a different counting system, ribsy. Smile

Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 49
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Three Sisters

Post  Sponsored content Today at 2:54 pm


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum