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March 1, 2011 in the PNW
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March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Today is the First Anniversary of the SFG Forum. How great is that? Although I have only been a member since June 10, last year, almost nine months, I have really enjoyed the fellowship of this wonderful group of people.
So, how is your garden growing? I know a few people in our region have planted outdoors, but I am still stuck in an indoor gardening mode.
Here is the plan for my first Table Top. It is still not planted but this box will contain only early cool weather crops.
| NORTH | TRELLIS | TRELLIS | NORTH | ||
| Super Sugar Snaps Peas | Super Sugar Snaps Peas | Super Sugar Snaps Peas | Super Sugar Snaps Peas | ||
| Drunken Woman Frizzy Head Lettuce | Broccoli Calbrese | Broccoli Fiesta | Parris Island Coos Romaine | ||
| PrizeHead Bronze Lettuce | Yellowstone Gold Beets Cylindra Beets | Carnival Blend Carrots white,yellow, purple, red | Mottistone Lettuce | ||
| Regal Hybrid Spinach | Regal Hybrid Spinach | Regatta Slow Bolt Hybrid Spinach | Regatta Slow Bolt Hybrid Spinach | ||
As soon as box number two is completed, it will be planted with more of both types of broccoli, Lincoln shelling peas, more spinach, Ching Chiang - Pac choi, and a couple new different varieties of lettuces, carrots and beets.
I have some indoor seedlings of Artichokes, started Feb 15th and so far only three have come up, but it is still a bit early because they can take up to 21 days. I also started to germinate some artichoke seeds on damp paper towels around Feb 24th, and in less than 5 days, all 5 out of 5 have a nice little root on them. I will need to up-pot these to 3 inch pots right away. I hope I remember that trick for next year.
As far as the other seedlings, my first tray, planted around Feb 8, included tomatillo, spinach, romaine, corn salad and bronze leaf lettuce and I have to admit, they don’t look as sturdy as I had hoped. The “Long Purple” eggplant seedlings started at the same time have done well and they are ready to be up-potted this week.
On Feb 16, I started Dairyu-Big Dragon and Millionaire eggplants, Calabrese and Fiesta Broccoli, Mulato Anaheim, Early Jalapeno and Kung Pao hot peppers as well as Gypsy, Sweet Banana and California Wonder varieties of sweet peppers. Everything I started on Feb 16 germinated well and is looking pretty good.
On Feb 24, I started 7 varieties of tomatoes: Brandywine, Black Krim, Black Plum, Stupice, Gilbertie, Japanese Black Triefel, and Manitoba, as well as some Aunt Molly ground cherries in straight vermiculite. No sprouts are showing yet, but it has only been 5 days.
I have volunteered at the local community garden, just three blocks away from my home, where I will be working with the kids every Saturday for an hour or two. There are still some beds available. Since I am going to be at the Community Garden anyhow, I decided to take one of the raised beds which is 4 ft by 12 ft and I will be donating any produce from that bed to our local food bank, “Clifford’s Dream”. I am planning more calorie type crops rather than just salads as I think they will be more beneficial to the recipients. I am planning sugar snap peas, beets, carrots, broccoli, squash and various bush and pole beans. I will only be able to trellis about 6 ft of the bed because the orientation is not directly North/South and one of the rules is that you not shade a neighbor’s garden bed. Because this was a last minute decision to take the bed, I still am working on my garden plan.
So, tell me, how is Your garden growing?
ps: Don't forget to save a square for your Nantes Carrots that will be planted on April 15th!
Last edited by Furbalsmom on 3/1/2011, 3:29 pm; edited 1 time in total

Furbalsmom-
Posts: 3139
Join date: 2010-06-10
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Location: Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(
Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Those are some great plans.
Lucky you in the PNW. Here in Maine I'm still waiting for the snow to melt.
Good luck all of you.
Lucky you in the PNW. Here in Maine I'm still waiting for the snow to melt.
Good luck all of you.

quiltbea-
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Location: Southwestern Maine Zone 5A

Grafted tomatoes in the PNW
Don't forget, I am trying those grafted tomatoes this year. For those of you not familiar with grafted tomatoes, the idea is the nursery takes a tomato rootstock that is supposed to be more resistant to soil born viruses and diseases, then they graft on the growing part of a "more desirable" tomato that you typically would grow for flavor and appearances.
I am waiting for these grafted tomatoes to arrive in late April. The experiment will include the following varieties.
Brandywine
Japanese Trifele Black
To complete my experiment, I will be purchasing two transplants of the same varieties and have already started the same two varieties from seeds. I know this is really ambitious, since tomatoes do not grow well in the cool, damp, foggy Oregon Coast in the PNW, but, I want to try.
I am waiting for these grafted tomatoes to arrive in late April. The experiment will include the following varieties.
Brandywine
Japanese Trifele Black
To complete my experiment, I will be purchasing two transplants of the same varieties and have already started the same two varieties from seeds. I know this is really ambitious, since tomatoes do not grow well in the cool, damp, foggy Oregon Coast in the PNW, but, I want to try.

Furbalsmom-
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
FM, you're sooooo organized! That makes it hard for me to maintain my preferred low stress, casual approach: 'I'm gonna throw some seeds in the dirt one of these days and see what happens'!
That being said, everything I've planted outside is so slow, that I started 50 peat pellets of broccoli and cauliflower last week. It's past time-I want to see something growing! Even my peas aren't sticking their heads up after 3 1/2 weeks.
I started making another TT today. I don't know what will go in it, but I'll have it when I need it.
I also started some gutter gardens for greens. I mounted them on existing 4x4 posts. It's just something different to experiment with ; it might free up TT space for other stuff. Sorry, I'm without a camera until next week.
Poor Quiltbea! Snow on the ground and no end in sight; I don't think I could do it!
That being said, everything I've planted outside is so slow, that I started 50 peat pellets of broccoli and cauliflower last week. It's past time-I want to see something growing! Even my peas aren't sticking their heads up after 3 1/2 weeks.
I started making another TT today. I don't know what will go in it, but I'll have it when I need it.
I also started some gutter gardens for greens. I mounted them on existing 4x4 posts. It's just something different to experiment with ; it might free up TT space for other stuff. Sorry, I'm without a camera until next week.
Poor Quiltbea! Snow on the ground and no end in sight; I don't think I could do it!
boffer-
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Quiltbea, you and I will have to live through them vicariously for now.
It's been
for 3 days, not much accumulation though, and I have snow in the forecast all week. 
for 3 days, not much accumulation though, and I have snow in the forecast all week. 
middlemamma-

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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
boffer wrote:Everything I've planted outside is so slow, that I started 50 peat pellets of broccoli and cauliflower last week. It's past time-I want to see something growing! Even my peas aren't sticking their heads up after 3 1/2 weeks.
I started making another TT today. I don't know what will go in it, but I'll have it when I need it.
I also started some gutter gardens for greens. I mounted them on existing 4x4 posts. It's just something different to experiment with ; it might free up TT space for other stuff. Sorry, I'm without a camera until next week.
I love it, making another table top just so you will have it when you need it
Those gutter gardens sounded pretty neat, but I just have to rein myself in.


Furbalsmom-
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
middlemamma wrote:Quiltbea, you and I will have to live through them vicariously for now.It's been
for 3 days, not much accumulation though, and I have snow in the forecast all week.
And I see you are sending it MY way! We have 3 days of snow forecast starting sometime this weekend (I say sometime, because it never starts when they SAY it is going to start

Goosegirl-
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March 2
There are sick teachers so I have to go in to school today instead of staying at home with my distance-learners and spring gardening. Bleck!
The kewl news is that I just found out that Uprising sells black garbanzo beans for the PNW!! The uber kewl thing is that garbanzo's go into the ground at the same time as peas. I am on a quest to grow calories this year. As soon as I can score a few of these I'll put them into the 4 center squares of Box 3. Garbanzo's are not big producers as far as I know, but I'm gonna try them anyhow.
Uprising also has a red veined spinach that I would have interplanted with my bloomsdale today if I was not working BUT the new moon is this Friday (March 5) which is the start of a better phase for leaf veggies.
I should have started all those tomatoes yesterday. I hurt my back watering the dogs (of all things!) Too many pain meds to feel motivated to roll and fill newspaper pots....although I did roll and fill pots for nine broccoli starts. I did two pots each of seed from last year (Umpqua and NutriBud), two of a new to me broccoli (Thompson and I don't remember if it is OP or F1, I have such bad luck with broccoli I may have given in and got the F1) and 3 of a broccoli-kale cross called Peacock which sounds quite useful and pretty. I do not remember having so much trouble with broccoli in the mountains as I have with broccoli in my SFG. After a bit of reading is sounds like MM is way too high in Nitrogen to produce good heads. Instead it makes loads of leaves and tiny side shoots (which is what I noticed last year) I need to figure out how to solve this without taking the broccoli out of the box.
The micro greens and artichokes are coming along (and crowding my counter space)
Deborah....was it just me or was it warmer last night then it was yesterday?
The kewl news is that I just found out that Uprising sells black garbanzo beans for the PNW!! The uber kewl thing is that garbanzo's go into the ground at the same time as peas. I am on a quest to grow calories this year. As soon as I can score a few of these I'll put them into the 4 center squares of Box 3. Garbanzo's are not big producers as far as I know, but I'm gonna try them anyhow.
Uprising also has a red veined spinach that I would have interplanted with my bloomsdale today if I was not working BUT the new moon is this Friday (March 5) which is the start of a better phase for leaf veggies.
I should have started all those tomatoes yesterday. I hurt my back watering the dogs (of all things!) Too many pain meds to feel motivated to roll and fill newspaper pots....although I did roll and fill pots for nine broccoli starts. I did two pots each of seed from last year (Umpqua and NutriBud), two of a new to me broccoli (Thompson and I don't remember if it is OP or F1, I have such bad luck with broccoli I may have given in and got the F1) and 3 of a broccoli-kale cross called Peacock which sounds quite useful and pretty. I do not remember having so much trouble with broccoli in the mountains as I have with broccoli in my SFG. After a bit of reading is sounds like MM is way too high in Nitrogen to produce good heads. Instead it makes loads of leaves and tiny side shoots (which is what I noticed last year) I need to figure out how to solve this without taking the broccoli out of the box.
The micro greens and artichokes are coming along (and crowding my counter space)
Deborah....was it just me or was it warmer last night then it was yesterday?

Lavender Debs- Posts: 1762
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Wow you guys are so on the ball. It's only March and I already feel behind.
I still don't have my boxes.
I guess with knowing they will come within the next two weeks I could start something inside. I do have some Mel's mix already but need to get more mixed.
There is one place along my fence that would be a nice place for peas and beans so I think I am going to go ahead and start that this weekend. There won't be a box there and I am going direct into the ground. We are still getting flurries at night but hopefully the worst is over.
Some of my herbs are still going from last year and it seems the snow hasn't fazed them at all.
Still no strawberry plants available.
Once I do get out there I will get some pictures for my before and after too.
On another note, I only have certain spaces in my yard that get enough sunlight. Now along the side of the house that I plant it is getting too much shade from some wild tall growth in my neighbor's yard. I am thinking of going over and asking them if they will let me trim it if I haul it out. What do you think?
I still don't have my boxes.
There is one place along my fence that would be a nice place for peas and beans so I think I am going to go ahead and start that this weekend. There won't be a box there and I am going direct into the ground. We are still getting flurries at night but hopefully the worst is over.
Some of my herbs are still going from last year and it seems the snow hasn't fazed them at all.
Still no strawberry plants available.
Once I do get out there I will get some pictures for my before and after too.
On another note, I only have certain spaces in my yard that get enough sunlight. Now along the side of the house that I plant it is getting too much shade from some wild tall growth in my neighbor's yard. I am thinking of going over and asking them if they will let me trim it if I haul it out. What do you think?

Wreanne05- Posts: 22
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Wreanne,
I see you've only posted 6 times so I take it you're new with us.
Welcome aboard the Food Train. You'll love it.
As for the neighbors......if you are on talking terms with them, yes, I'd offer to cut back their weedy growth for the trimmings which may please them, but you could also tell them you'd be happy to share some lettuce, tomatoes or whatever it is you plan to grow in that particular area after the sun is available. They might be more cooperative if the reward is good.
Good luck with your SFG. I hope to see you posting more often with good news.
I see you've only posted 6 times so I take it you're new with us.
Welcome aboard the Food Train. You'll love it.
As for the neighbors......if you are on talking terms with them, yes, I'd offer to cut back their weedy growth for the trimmings which may please them, but you could also tell them you'd be happy to share some lettuce, tomatoes or whatever it is you plan to grow in that particular area after the sun is available. They might be more cooperative if the reward is good.
Good luck with your SFG. I hope to see you posting more often with good news.

quiltbea-
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I have Tomato Sprouts!
I have to apologize for these really bad photos, I was having focus problems
These are my Brandywine Tomato seedling that I planted on 2/24 in vermiculite. I tried to plant 7 seeds in each little pot of vermiculite so I would end up with 6 seedlings to transplant. Look at the long roots on that little seedling laying on the paper towel next to the pot of vermiculite.

Yesterday, I up-potted them to little 2 inch cells filled with Mel's Mix and made sure I buried most of the stalk. I also up-potted my Stupice and Black Krim.

The Manitoba, Gilbertie (from seed exchange), Black Plum, Black Trifele tomato seedlings were not big enough, they still had their little seed caps on and the seeds leaves had not opened up. Probably will up-pot them over the weekend. The Aunt Mollys Ground Cherries have not yet sprouted.
Now that I have three open pots with vermiculite available, I will start the Cherokee Purple, Tom's Black Cherry and Tomatillo's all from seed exchanges. I had tried the tomatillos in jiffy pellets, but did not have good results. I think straight vermiculite will give them a better chance to germinate.

Yesterday, I up-potted them to little 2 inch cells filled with Mel's Mix and made sure I buried most of the stalk. I also up-potted my Stupice and Black Krim.

The Manitoba, Gilbertie (from seed exchange), Black Plum, Black Trifele tomato seedlings were not big enough, they still had their little seed caps on and the seeds leaves had not opened up. Probably will up-pot them over the weekend. The Aunt Mollys Ground Cherries have not yet sprouted.
Now that I have three open pots with vermiculite available, I will start the Cherokee Purple, Tom's Black Cherry and Tomatillo's all from seed exchanges. I had tried the tomatillos in jiffy pellets, but did not have good results. I think straight vermiculite will give them a better chance to germinate.

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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
I took some photos this past weekend so I can do before and after photos. I will download them once I get my boxes all set up.
I have some soil mixed and more bags ready for mixing. I also could only do so much money wise so I have two areas where we are just going direct into ground so my peas and beans are in there too. I took advantage of the sun breaks and now with the forecast am I glad I did.
The most exciting is my son called and tomorrow I get my boxes he made! Yay!!! Oh and my neighbor was just lovely to speak with and is quite happy for us to trim her tree/bushes? to let in more sun, she even asked if she needed to do anything in her yard to protect ours. She is due in two weeks so I told her to go put her feet up and relax and that would work for me.
The most exciting is my son called and tomorrow I get my boxes he made! Yay!!! Oh and my neighbor was just lovely to speak with and is quite happy for us to trim her tree/bushes? to let in more sun, she even asked if she needed to do anything in her yard to protect ours. She is due in two weeks so I told her to go put her feet up and relax and that would work for me.

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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Good news all around.
Boxes coming and more sunlight for your garden. (If the sun decides to show it's pretty little face)
Boxes coming and more sunlight for your garden. (If the sun decides to show it's pretty little face)

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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
That's exciting. Don't worry about being behind. This wasn't a good year for starting early outside. I didn't gain much.
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Re: March 1, 2011 in the PNW
Hey FM - did you bother thinking about evacuating yesterday or are you already far enough inland that it wouldn't have mattered anyway? Once I heard how little the tide rose in Hawaii, I laughed at the drama the news was trying to create over a tsunami hitting Oregon. Has that ever happened?!?
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