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Post  CindiLou on 3/8/2011, 4:20 pm

Today I took seedlings from the covered containers down on my germinating shelf
and moved them up to the taller shelf.

I just set the peat pots in the 2 1/2 inch pots,
they will get transplanted as needed directly into them:

9 walla walla onions (I am starting 18 more today)
2 straight 8 cucumbers
2 oregano
2 sweet basil
2 luffa
3 romanesco broccoli
1 sweet marjoram
4 broccoli
6 cauliflower
3 brussel sprouts


still to germinate are:
2 zucchini
2 acorn squash
4 parsley
1 romanesco
3 northern sea oats, these are ornamental grass




This is the grow light cabinet hubby made for me last winter.


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Post  quiltbea on 3/8/2011, 4:25 pm

You are making good headway.
I love that growlight cabinet your talented hubby made for you. Its great.
Good luck and keep posting pictures.

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Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 3/8/2011, 5:56 pm

Those look great! Won't be long and you'll be tasting them.

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Post  CindiLou on 3/8/2011, 7:53 pm

I was reading an interesting post.

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t5343-seed-starting-experiment

Talking about the seedlings getting leggy when trying to reach for light at night when the heat mat is on...

I don't have a heat mat but the lower lights work as one for the germination shelf. The plants that I did not get out of there right after they germinated ARE leggy. But the cucumbers I got out as soon as they broke surface aren't leggy at all!. Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

I am going to see if I get them out as soon as they break ground if they aren't leggy. Will be interesting to try.

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Post  jmosciaro on 3/9/2011, 1:26 pm

I started indoor seeding 2 weeks ago. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants and basil look great. I am confused as to weather I need to transfer them to larger pots now? The Tomatoes are in trays about 3.5 inch squares each. The rest are in small individual squares in a larger tray. Does anyone know the optimal size pots for these type of seedlings?

Also, I started this stuff before I had any real info and I started zucchini, cantaloupe, watermelon, cucumbers and peas. The zucchini is now huge! Should I euthanize these and start later of do they have a chance if I pot up? My last frost date is April 14th if that helps. I am also set up to cover the SFG with clear plastic and or blankets.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks, Joe

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Post  jmosciaro on 3/12/2011, 9:49 am

I went to the seed store and and looked at some nursery plants. They make my seedlings look like wimps. The lettuce 4 packs looked like little heads of lettuce already?

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Post  Megan on 3/12/2011, 9:58 am

Joe,

I had bad luck starting seeds indoors last year, but ended up with a very vigorous garden from planting seeds directly in-ground in late April. Ended up with some late crops, but they were still good. Those plants you see in the stores were grown in professional greenhouses, don't let them get you down.

I would say, plant what you can, and if you need to re-start, you still have time--or maybe plant some, and hold others back just in case. The crops you are talking about are all hot weather crops around here, and don't do well until the soil is really warmed through.

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Post  Furbalsmom on 3/12/2011, 2:41 pm

@jmosciaro wrote:I went to the seed store and and looked at some nursery plants. They make my seedlings look like wimps. The lettuce 4 packs looked like little heads of lettuce already?

I had bad luck last year with lettuce transplants that were too big. The lettuces bolted quickly, and I live in a very cool area, we rarely have a single day of the summer when the temperature reaches 86 degrees.

If I transplant small lettuces, or those seedlings I have grown myself, they seem to hang around for cut and come again harvesting for a long time. I even had early September planted lettuces that I was able to continue to harvest at Christmas from my semi enclosed porch.

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Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 3/12/2011, 3:45 pm

@jmosciaro wrote:I am confused as to weather I need to transfer them to larger pots now? The Tomatoes are in trays about 3.5 inch squares each. The rest are in small individual squares in a larger tray. Does anyone know the optimal size pots for these type of seedlings?

Joe, I am clearly no expert. But, I will offer my two cents. I always find tomatoes in stores in 4 inch pots. So, I figure that is the size you want to end up with before heading for the garden. I have read a lot about uppotting multiple times, but have also read that the more you disturb the root system, the more you hinder growth. Seems like a pickle to me...no pun intended.

So, I have just tried something all on my own. I have started my tomatoes in a small cup of vermiculite per Mel's new book. Once sprouted, I give them about 2 days. After two days, I move them directly into a 4 inch pot with a potting mix in it. (I imagine MM would do, too.) Either way, I just let them be from there. They seem to be doing better than anything I have started indoors before. I have 3 tomatoes going now and one pepper plant that all look really strong.

I don't know if I'm on to something or not. But, I figure I can always buy transplants if my idea bites the dust.

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Post  jmosciaro on 3/12/2011, 11:09 pm

Thanks for your comments. I started sprouting seeds in vermiculite and I am also having good luck with that so far. My tomato plants are looking great right now. Since I started to many as it is, I am going to put a few in 4" pots. Also, I will sprout a few new ones and go straight in to the 4" pots and see which plants look the best to go in to the garden.

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Post  camprn on 3/12/2011, 11:12 pm

Last year I transplanted my tomato seedlings into 16oz plastic beer cups. Those worked quite well for several weeks before final transplant into the bed.

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Post  walshevak on 3/13/2011, 8:14 am

I needed some instant gratification so I purchased and planted 2 squares each of kale, bok choy and collards. at the same time I sowed bok choy and collards for a second crop and swiss chard seed. It's nice to see something green in the beds.


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Post  ander217 on 3/13/2011, 8:55 am

Welcome to the forum, jmosciaro. It's always great to welcome another Missourian to the forum. I'm in the opposite part of the state from you, in the Bootheel region, but our son graduated from UMKC and loved living in KC.

I've gardened all my life, and we have always direct-seeded our squash. Zucchini grows and produces very quickly from direct-seeding here. You might experiment and try some both ways and see if transplants make a lot of difference for you.

We always direct-seed lettuce, too. I tried head lettuce transplants last fall for the first time, but the late fall warm temps made them bolt before heading, anyway. In this area I'm sticking with leaf and sem-heading lettuce types.

Keep us posted on how your garden grows.


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Post  Megan on 3/13/2011, 9:03 am

I definitely want to hear how your rampicante goes, Ander! Wink

I am a fan of direct-seeding lettuce, also. I am going to stick with the leaf types for now, too. There's only the two of us and dh isn't ALL that keen on it, so cut'n'come again works best for us....I'd be overwhelmed with numerous heading lettuce coming ripe all at once, even in staggered plantings.

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Post  jmosciaro on 3/14/2011, 5:17 pm

It snowed on my garden last night and this morning. I have the hoop house set up and the new transplants seem to be fine. The chard grew about a 1/4" while it was below freezing and the broccoli looks a little stronger as well. FYI I planted the chard 3 days ago, some romain and riley lettuce yesterday and some the day before. All of the lettuce was planted from seeds sprouted in vermiculite then straight in to the cold cold garden with no hardening off. It is actually growing..amazing. This is my first garden if you could not tell.

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Post  jmosciaro on 3/14/2011, 5:33 pm

Can beets be planted directly in the 6" beds or do they need a high rise box?

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Post  duhh on 3/14/2011, 6:02 pm

I planted beets in my 10 in deep box, but am not sure they needed that much. I think it depends on what type you plant. We planted a big mix and some were longer and others were shorted and wider... I say try it, what do you have to loose?

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Post  boffer on 3/14/2011, 6:11 pm

I grow 16-20 squares of beets every year. Either Detroit Dark Reds or Bull's Blood, in 6 inch boxes. I have a few boxes bordered with cinder blocks, and I've grown beets in the holes of the cinder blocks, too. The beet itself does not need to be completely buried.

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Post  Megan on 3/14/2011, 7:09 pm

@boffer wrote:I grow 16-20 squares of beets every year. Either Detroit Dark Reds or Bull's Blood, in 6 inch boxes.

Wow... we're going to have to call you Beet Man! Wink I got some Golden Beet seed to try this year, as dh has issues with red beets. Good to know they do not need a deep box.

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Post  camprn on 3/14/2011, 7:11 pm

Mine grew just fine in my settled 5 inches of mel's mix

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Post  Megan on 3/14/2011, 7:33 pm

Is that harvest 2, or 4 squares' worth, Camprn?

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Post  dixie on 3/14/2011, 7:44 pm

Camprn, those are really pretty. I have planted some Cylindras in a 10" box, first time growing them. Do the yellow ones taste similar to the red?

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Post  camprn on 3/14/2011, 7:51 pm

@Megan wrote:Is that harvest 2, or 4 squares' worth, Camprn?

Those came out of 2 squares and were only about half of what was in each square. I pulled the largest ones. I dont plant my beet seed in rows, I just sort of broadcast them into the square and then lightly cover with mix. I seed heavily because I love the greens so I thin and harvest. the golden beets are equally delicious!
This year I am going to wait a few more weeks to pull them, then I will enter some of them into the Fair. Wink Looking for another ribbon this year!

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Post  boffer on 3/14/2011, 7:57 pm

As an experiment, I left 6 squares worth in the soil for winter 'storage' like I do my carrots and Jerusalem artichokes. The beets came through pretty good, but the earthworms found them tongue

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Post  sceleste54 on 3/14/2011, 10:00 pm

Rolling Eyes I'm really trying not to be jealous !! I have yet to get a single beet!! They sprout just fine, get a decent growth of leaves, but no beet!! Not a great loss since I've never liked beets before, I grew them because I thought maybe I'd like them better if they were really fresh.. I just don't have the beet touch!! No

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