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Post  peanut0915 on 3/10/2011, 12:50 am

I posted a hello on the "Welcome Mat" forum and was led to this regional forum. My husband and I just purchased a raised bed set (2 4x4's) and my SFG book is on its way from Amazon. We are picking up some MM from Ogden on Friday to have ready to go in May. I am looking forward to starting this season using this technique, and will probably be on this forum quite a bit. I also look forward to any help/advice/tips you may have to share.

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Post  herbarium on 3/12/2011, 8:00 am

Welcome to the forum and to Square Foot Gardening. I am a certified teacher in Bountiful so if you have any questions.
The two things I have noticed most are that new SFGardeners forget to put in more compost when planting their next crop and incorrect proportions of peat moss. Since you are buying the mix you don't have to worry about getting the correct amount of peat moss.

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Post  peanut0915 on 3/12/2011, 12:27 pm

Thanks Beuna. I received the SFG book in the mail yesterday and can't put it down! I also picked up 8 bags of MM yesterday. I plan to start my very first compost bin soon so that it will be well on its way and ready to use when it is time to start replacing soil after harvesting. I am excited to have a few projects to keep my busy until it's actually time to start planting, including building a trellis of some sort for my tomatoes.

Can't wait to get started!
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  quiltbea on 3/12/2011, 1:03 pm

Welcome peanut, from across the country in Maine.
I was new 3 yrs ago and haven't looked back since. I love SFG.

I'm sure you've made the right decision. There's lots of help on this board when you have questions.

Good luck.
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  herbarium on 3/12/2011, 1:43 pm

Mandy,
I planted most of my cool season crops yesterday. Not that you should feel rushed but you can plant those things now and they prefer cooler weather. Tomatoes, peppers, and most fruit producers need to wait until around May 5 or so unless they are protected.
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Post  peanut0915 on 3/12/2011, 1:48 pm

Beuna, what cool season crops did you plant? Isn't spinach one that could be planted? I'd love to get a few things in the ground now if I can Very Happy
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  Furbalsmom on 3/12/2011, 6:01 pm

Peanuts, according to Mel's outdoor planting schedule for Spring

Seeds for
Peas and Spinach seeds can be planted outside 5 weeks before your last frost. Leaf lettuce seeds 4 weeks before last frost.
Beets, Carrots,Radishes, and Swiss Chard seeds can all be planted 3 weeks before your last frost.

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Broccoli, Cabbage and Parsley transplants can be planted 5 wks before your last frost.
Cauliflower, Lettuce, Onions and Swiss Chard transplants can be planted 4 weeks before your last frost.
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  herbarium on 3/14/2011, 3:07 pm

Most leafy things: cabbage, lettuce, spinach, arugula and roots such as radishes, carrots, beets, potatoes can be planted now.
Fruit producers - peppers, tomatoes, squash, melons, cucumbers need to wait until after the first frost unless you are protecting them.
Peas can handle the cold but beans cannot. Cilantro, dill, and parsley should all be fine but basil will freeze.

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Post  peanut0915 on 3/18/2011, 10:35 pm

Thank you all for your help. Today I planted seeds for peas, carrots, chard, beets, green onions (not sure if that one is too big a risk, but I'm trying), spinach, bibb lettuce, and a gourmet lettuce blend. I put a protective clear dome over the bed to keep everything nice and warm. The hubby built me my grids and trellis today and we also picked up a compost bin. Now the hard part comes...the waiting! Any other tips would be appreciated!
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  Lollypop9 on 3/24/2011, 12:48 pm

just wanted to jump in here since I'm in Lehi UT:)

how do i figure out when 5 weeks from the last frost is?

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  herbarium on 3/24/2011, 1:04 pm

Here are a couple sources. It looks like May 14.
http://extension.usu.edu/htm/faq/faq_q=153
http://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-dates/UT/Lehi

You could contact your local extension office to be sure
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/index.html

Once you have the date just count back 5 weeks.

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  peanut0915 on 4/12/2011, 2:21 pm

Update:

I have seedlings! My spinach, green onions, sugar-snap peas, beets, and gourmet lettuce blend are all peeking their heads through the soil. I still have a clear protective dome over the box as our weather has been pretty cold and even snowy recently, and I really think that it has helped to keep the bed warm. I am still waiting for my bibb lettuce, swiss chard, and carrots to show themselves Smile.

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  Furbalsmom on 4/12/2011, 4:49 pm

Peanut, that is great
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  Lollypop9 on 4/12/2011, 5:19 pm

peanut0915 wrote:Update:

I have seedlings! My spinach, green onions, sugar-snap peas, beets, and gourmet lettuce blend are all peeking their heads through the soil. I still have a clear protective dome over the box as our weather has been pretty cold and even snowy recently, and I really think that it has helped to keep the bed warm. I am still waiting for my bibb lettuce, swiss chard, and carrots to show themselves Smile.

Happy planting!

darn the snow---I'm starting to worry since I'ce seen no green. I have covered my beds at night but not during the day usually. do you think my lettuce, spinach, etc are dead or will just take longer to sprout because of the cold?

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  quiltbea on 4/12/2011, 5:42 pm

Lollypop,
Seeds always take longer to germinate when its colder.

If it gets too wet under there, they could also rot but wait a little longer to see if anything pops up.
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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  herbarium on 4/12/2011, 6:50 pm

I planted my cool season crops a few weeks ago. Many have sprouted and all are just fine. I have not covered the beds. The seeds will usually just wait until the weather is just right and then sprout. Even the broccoli and cabbage seedlings have been fine.

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Post  Lollypop9 on 4/13/2011, 12:35 am

oh no it seems like it's been wet in there--I thought I wanted to keep them moistened until the germinate?!

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  herbarium on 4/13/2011, 10:13 am

Seedlings need to stay moist but should not be soaking wet. If they are in the garden I don't worry about how much nature waters them because my SFG drains just fine.
I am not sure if that answers your concern.

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Re: First-timer in Murray, UT

Post  peanut0915 on 4/16/2011, 12:31 am

I am happy to report that my DLS (dear little sprouts) survived the freeze with the help of a protective covering last night. In addition to what I had mentioned had already sprouted, I now have carrots and bibb lettuce sprouting! The only thing I am waiting on is my Swiss chard. Planning on doing a second planting of many of the same seeds in another bed tomorrow so I can have a staggered cool weather harvest.

My pastor's wife just informed me last night that she has started tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, and squash from seed in her green house, and that she will give me the transplants I need when they are ready. I am going to save so much money! I am already getting excited for this year's harvest! bounce
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