Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» My SFG Journey:Returning to the Original Square Foot Garden Method
by has55 Today at 3:05 am

» Ginger
by has55 Today at 2:56 am

» Monarch Supporter
by CitizenKate Today at 1:43 am

» Today's Harvest
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 8:33 pm

» New England September 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:18 pm

» N&C Midwest - September 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:15 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:01 pm

» WANTED: Pictures of Compost Bins
by bigdogrock Yesterday at 7:03 pm

» Tomato Tuesday 2017
by BeetlesPerSqFt Yesterday at 7:03 pm

» Any Strange and Wonderful Visitors? Photos please!
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 5:08 pm

» Amaranth
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 12:06 pm

» Birds of the Garden
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:29 am

» Bug/Pest Identification....Help!
by brianj555 9/17/2017, 9:22 pm

» Tomatoes in New England
by Scorpio Rising 9/17/2017, 9:02 pm

» Ground Cherries
by Ginger Blue 9/17/2017, 5:39 pm

» Butterfly Junction
by countrynaturals 9/17/2017, 11:20 am

» Skinny Cucumbers?
by brianj555 9/17/2017, 11:15 am

» Trellis
by CapeCoddess 9/17/2017, 10:19 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by bigdogrock 9/17/2017, 8:43 am

» Garden Videos 2017
by brianj555 9/16/2017, 9:48 pm

» What I learned this year
by brianj555 9/16/2017, 9:19 pm

» This sounds too simple: Aspirin and tomato plants
by bigdogrock 9/16/2017, 3:02 pm

» Annie's Salsa
by kygardener 9/16/2017, 2:54 pm

» Suggestions please!! Cherry Tomatoes
by countrynaturals 9/16/2017, 1:07 pm

» Senseless Banter...
by sanderson 9/16/2017, 10:35 am

» Oregon City Newbie
by Scorpio Rising 9/15/2017, 9:44 pm

» Introduction!
by AtlantaMarie 9/15/2017, 3:00 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by AtlantaMarie 9/15/2017, 10:09 am

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver 9/14/2017, 6:50 pm

» Harvesting Beans for Drying?
by sanderson 9/14/2017, 6:14 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Cucumber Trellis idea

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  fiddleman on 3/28/2011, 8:47 pm

I've been growing cucumbers vertically for a couple of years now and have been very pleased with the results... Instead of growing straight up, I put the trellis on a slant and supported it with a couple of braces mid length. The braces are placed on a couple of patio pavers, so as not to sink into the ground. So I have 8 feet of trellis which only goes 6 feet into the air, making it easier to take care of the plant. (I don't have a picture of last years trellis as I had lengthened it a bit, but the idea was the same.) As a bonus, I feed all of the cucumbers through the garden fencing so they are suspended underneath making it easy to spot and keep an eye on the cucumbers for which ones are ready to pick.

The trellis is made out of 1 x 3 lumber and large opening garden wire fencing. It has been more than strong enough to hold up all of the cucumbers and plants with nary a wimper.

Here is a picture from the side (sort of) Sorry about the quality, through a cheap phone camera.
[img][/img]

And here is a picture of the trellis from the north side- if you look close, you can see the cucumbers hanging down.

[img][/img]

As you can see by the number of flowers, there were TONS of cucumbers that year, this was on the 6th of August, and we had more than our family, my in-laws, our neighbors, and the folks at work could eat. All out of 3 cucumber plants.

Anyway, I hope maybe some others would enjoy the idea.

Mark
avatar
fiddleman

Male Posts : 121
Join date : 2011-03-21
Location : Mid Michigan

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Megan on 3/28/2011, 8:56 pm

Great trellis idea and cukes, Mark! (Handsome cabbage there, too.)
avatar
Megan

Female Posts : 3350
Join date : 2010-04-27
Age : 50
Location : Manassas, VA - Zone 7a

View user profile http://novasquarefootgardener.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Furbalsmom on 3/28/2011, 10:09 pm

Mark, those are great cucumber trellises. Of course you could grow other things on them too. Looks pretty substantial to me. Good Job!
avatar
Furbalsmom

Female Posts : 3141
Join date : 2010-06-10
Age : 70
Location : Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(

View user profile

Back to top Go down

cucumbers

Post  westie42 on 3/29/2011, 2:34 am

Nifty idea of letting gravity reveal your fruits, a simple but brilliant idea. In my pre SFG garden I used cages for my tomatoes made from 4x4 concrete mesh and one much bigger one for a cucumber tower. Do you think I can reuse that one to make one like yours Mark.

westie42

Male Posts : 512
Join date : 2011-03-22
Age : 75
Location : West Union, Iowa

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  jayjaym on 3/29/2011, 5:46 am

Excellent idea. I'm going to see if I can work this into my garden this year.

jayjaym

Male Posts : 12
Join date : 2011-03-19
Location : South East Idaho (Zone 4a/4b)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Great Idea

Post  bettyd_z7_va on 3/29/2011, 8:34 am

Thanks for posting these pictures.

I've been thinkin' and thinkin' on how to trellis my cukes and squash!

This will work nicely.

I'll be showing Hubby as soon as he gets home and placing my order with him!!

Betty

bettyd_z7_va

Female Posts : 123
Join date : 2010-09-16
Age : 63
Location : Central Va

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 3/29/2011, 8:55 am

Great idea! This is an outstanding twist on a trellis.
avatar
BackyardBirdGardner

Male Posts : 2727
Join date : 2010-12-25
Age : 43
Location : St. Louis, MO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Blackrose on 3/29/2011, 10:31 am

westie42 wrote:Nifty idea of letting gravity reveal your fruits, a simple but brilliant idea. In my pre SFG garden I used cages for my tomatoes made from 4x4 concrete mesh and one much bigger one for a cucumber tower. Do you think I can reuse that one to make one like yours Mark.

Concrete mesh sounds like a good idea. Would it rust though?
avatar
Blackrose

Female Posts : 710
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 44
Location : Aurora, Ontario, Zone 5a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  yosoypanadero on 3/29/2011, 10:47 am

I like the angled trellis that you have going on. To go along with that same idea, I was looking through a catologue that was trying to sell some trellis units that were similar to yours, but with one twist. If you take that angled trellis and put it so it hangs OVER the SFG from the front to back (south facing) then you will have a shade barrier over the 4x4 SFG wherein which you can plant your lettuce (supposedly) during the summer. The cucumbers or watermelon or whatever you are vertically growing on the trellis over the garden will provide ample shade over your garden for those long summer days when growing small greens seems impossible. Just thought I would pass this info along....
avatar
yosoypanadero

Male Posts : 105
Join date : 2011-03-22
Location : Cincinnati, OH Zone 6b

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Blackrose on 3/29/2011, 10:51 am

yosoypanadero wrote:I like the angled trellis that you have going on. To go along with that same idea, I was looking through a catologue that was trying to sell some trellis units that were similar to yours, but with one twist. If you take that angled trellis and put it so it hangs OVER the SFG from the front to back (south facing) then you will have a shade barrier over the 4x4 SFG wherein which you can plant your lettuce (supposedly) during the summer. The cucumbers or watermelon or whatever you are vertically growing on the trellis over the garden will provide ample shade over your garden for those long summer days when growing small greens seems impossible. Just thought I would pass this info along....

I had the exact same thought! That's why I was interested if the concrete mesh would rust. My DH is going to make me one of these with a PVC frame and we're trying to figure out what the best material for the trellis part would be:
http://www.veseys.com/ca/en/store/tools/plantsupports/wirecucumber
avatar
Blackrose

Female Posts : 710
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 44
Location : Aurora, Ontario, Zone 5a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

cukes

Post  westie42 on 3/29/2011, 12:25 pm

BlackRose It rusts and rusts and rusts some more so bad that my wife drug all mine once to the curb for trash pickup saying they were horrible looking things. Getting po'd was a gross understatement. Rust is iron oxide (FeO2 I think) what more could one wish to have the tomatoes playing on, they are a tomato playground of the healthiest kind supplying all kinds of iron plus oxygen, The rust washes into the soil, yum yum. The concrete mesh is about 3/16" inch thick so will almost never rust through very tuff stuff. I could be way off base but seems that is an ideal material. Mine are probably 10 years old and mostly doing very well. A bit pricy what isn't when it works in the garden. My biggest concern was is the 4" grid possibly kinda big for the cukes. Last year a cantaloupe grew up a neighboring tomato cage and grew one that was stuck exactly half way in that 4x4 opening. When it was ripe I cut it in half still on the vine but did still get it harvested. I love concrete mesh especially for its rusting. Iowa gardens are full of those towers and cages. I can't afford a Mersades Benz so this is my status symbol the Cadillac of tomato cages. At least to us poor old...... gardeners.




westie42

Male Posts : 512
Join date : 2011-03-22
Age : 75
Location : West Union, Iowa

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Blackrose on 3/29/2011, 12:46 pm

Thank you westie. That is good information. My original plan was to use trellis netting, but my DH is concerned that it won't hold up to the weight of the plants if it's placed on a 45 degree angle as opposed to straight up and down as in Mel's Tomato Trellis.
avatar
Blackrose

Female Posts : 710
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 44
Location : Aurora, Ontario, Zone 5a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  boffer on 3/29/2011, 12:50 pm

westie42 wrote:I love concrete mesh especially for its rusting.

You and me both, westie. Or am I just to cheap and lazy to paint it! rofl
avatar
boffer

Male Posts : 7392
Join date : 2010-02-26
Age : 64
Location : yelm, wa, usa

View user profile http://boffer.us/

Back to top Go down

cukes on a trellis

Post  westie42 on 3/29/2011, 2:00 pm

Boffer you are just to wise to paint or do anything else that mite inhibit the bare iron mesh from contributing elemental supplements to your food.

westie42

Male Posts : 512
Join date : 2011-03-22
Age : 75
Location : West Union, Iowa

View user profile

Back to top Go down

cukes on a trellis

Post  westie42 on 3/29/2011, 2:10 pm

oh Black Rose an second thought I mite go about half way up the slope and put in a wooden or pipe cross piece then tie it to the mesh for support. Cant imagine the cukes and vines are real heavy but that would insure sufficient support. A full grocery sack of cukes is a strain on the sack and all this stuff will hang there thru growing season.

westie42

Male Posts : 512
Join date : 2011-03-22
Age : 75
Location : West Union, Iowa

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  fiddleman on 3/29/2011, 8:12 pm

yosoypanadero wrote:I like the angled trellis that you have going on. To go along with that same idea, I was looking through a catologue that was trying to sell some trellis units that were similar to yours, but with one twist. If you take that angled trellis and put it so it hangs OVER the SFG from the front to back (south facing) then you will have a shade barrier over the 4x4 SFG wherein which you can plant your lettuce (supposedly) during the summer. The cucumbers or watermelon or whatever you are vertically growing on the trellis over the garden will provide ample shade over your garden for those long summer days when growing small greens seems impossible. Just thought I would pass this info along....

If I was going to put a trellis over a square foot garden I would go straight up at least a few feet then angle the trellis at that point back over the garden on a slight upward gradient...

My reasoning is the center of the square is going to get pretty difficult to get into with apex of the trellising heading up from ground level so to speak. By training the cucumbers or whatever on the outside of the trellis, then back across the top, you should have enough room for the fruit to hang down and yet not so much as to keep banging you in the head while you do your watering/weeding/harvesting affraid

Of course the opposite end will need to be braced appropriately, but it should work okay. For me in this part of the country the sun doesn't get high enough in the sky to really be a problem... and the temps only get above 90 for (usually) maybe a week at most. The Great Lakes have a moderating influence on the climate in this part of the state.

The garden fencing hasn't rusted for 5 years; it was re-used from another project!

All the best,
Mark
avatar
fiddleman

Male Posts : 121
Join date : 2011-03-21
Location : Mid Michigan

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Cucumber Trellis idea

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum