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Post  jercarol on 4/1/2011, 11:03 am

I have been preplexed about finding 5 types of compost in my area. Since I live near the mushroom capital of the East, every center sells mushroom dirt in exclusion of most other types of compost. I found a place not too far away that sells the mix described below. Would this count for all 5 types??

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Compost 1
Starting with steam pasteurization then composted in wind rows and finally cured on a concrete pad, this product is ninety nine percent weed seed free. Horticultural Compost is blended from hay, straw, horse manure, poultry litter, corn cobs, cottonseed hulls, coca bean hulls, hardwood sawdust, millet, and fortified with peat moss and gypsum. Our horticultural compost is rich in beneficial microorganisms and fungi.

Compost 2
compost/soil is made from: hay,straw,woodchips,sawdust,dehyd.chicken manure,gypsum,lime,sugerbeat lime, Canadian peat moss,oak leaves phase2 compost[before mushroom growing], mushroom stumps,shiitake logs,
raw materials are mixed and composted,then blended together, and turned with an aero-master bio-systems turner sprayed with water and natural compost tea’s,and goody water.great for vegetables, gives higher brix readings on all veggies. This product requires more input in man hours and material.

I can get it for about $50 yd

I am doing 4 more 4x4 boxes and one 2x10 box. I think I have the math right (used Mel's Mix Cal. found on the forum). I need around 15 cubic feet so I need less that a cubic yard (but I can always use compost.

I can afford to do my boxes at this rate but not by buying many small compost bags.

So after reading the two compost descriptions, do you feel it meets the requirements of 5 compost types? AND which compost do you like the most??

Thanks so much, Jerry

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Post  Odd Duck on 4/1/2011, 5:28 pm

Both of those sound lke excellent, mixed source composts and I would probably use some of each of they'll sell them in smaller than volumes than a full yard. Many places will sell a half yard of a bulk product. If you can put some mushroom compost in the blend as well, I think you'd probably be in good shape.

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Post  sfg4uKim on 4/1/2011, 5:50 pm

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/node/33 Here's an article about mushroom compost that someone posted on the Forum awhile back.

It says:
Mushroom compost can supply nutrients and increase the water-holding capacity of the soil. But mushroom compost can be too much of a good thing for seeds, seedlings and young plants, said OSU's Hart.

"The soluble salts and other nutrients in fresh, undiluted mushroom compost, are too concentrated for germinating seeds, young plants and other salt-sensitive plants including members of the heath family such as rhododendrons, blueberries and azaleas," said Hart.

To avoid killing germinating seeds and stressing heath family members, Hart recommends mixing mushroom compost with garden soil before using it on young plants. Or, order a supply of mushroom compost in the fall and let it sit uncovered, to "cure" over the winter.

I wonder if 1/3 peat & 1/3 verm will "dilute" the the mushroom compost enough.




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Post  camprn on 4/1/2011, 6:28 pm

ksroman wrote:
I wonder if 1/3 peat & 1/3 verm will "dilute" the the mushroom compost enough.
But to follow Mel's recipe you would want 4 other types of compost, which would make using mushroom compost a perfect component of the MM. Very Happy

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Post  WardinWake on 4/1/2011, 6:33 pm

Howdy:

Boy-Oh-Boy what a find. Both sound very good. I do like number one better though. Now a blend of both of these would be one power house of a blended compost and yes I think that either mix will meet or exceed the 5 blended compost recommendation.

God Bless, Ward and Mary.

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Post  jercarol on 4/1/2011, 6:56 pm

I am glad most you you like it. I have a little GMC Sonoma so I will see what I can fit into the bed. I do have some mushroom dirt that I used when I row gardened that I can mix into whatever I want.

Thanks and keep the opinions coming.

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Post  Furbalsmom on 4/1/2011, 9:40 pm

I miss my 4.3 V-6 Sonoma. But, we now have a GMC 2500HD Diesel (to tow our 15,000 lb 5th wheel)

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Post  sfg4uKim on 4/1/2011, 9:51 pm

Isn't it 5 INGREDIENTS for the compost, not 5 TYPES? If so, mushroom compost is already a blend of MANY different ingredients. The following is from an Oregon State University article that was posted on this Forum awhile back:

"The recipe for mushroom compost varies from company to company, but can include composted wheat or rye straw, peat moss, used horse bedding straw, chicken manure, cottonseed or canola meal, grape crushings from wineries, soybean meal, potash, gypsum, urea, ammonium nitrate and lime."

The name comes from the fact that it is the perfect medium for growing mushrooms. It does not contain mushrooms.

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Post  camprn on 4/1/2011, 10:16 pm

As to the original post, I would go with the second choice. It has a lot of good extras in it, like the gypsum and lime. Even though the second choice contains peat, it is probably well composted, but would that throw off the final mix from Mel's recipe? I dont know, I would want to find out the percentage of peat, roughly.

All composts that are sold commercially in bags are generally a blend, even if its called cow manure compost it is most probably stable litter with shavings. I often find small sticks, bark and stones in bagged compost.
I was truly under the impression that Mel recommends that the 5 composts come from different sources, but I cannot find it in the book just now.

Ksroman, is there anything in the certified teachers information that may clear up this mystery? I am really curious now. :?:

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Post  sfg4uKim on 4/1/2011, 10:47 pm

The book talks about compost usually being a "byproduct of one industry". The reason you should blend 5 different sources/types is because that bag contains only one INGREDIENT.

SO if one of these sources/types/bags of compost is already a BLEND of more than 5 ingredients, as mushroom compost is, it would be the same as if I made it from scratch.

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Post  camprn on 4/1/2011, 11:05 pm

Hey Jerry, do you have a link to the site that lists the compost?

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Post  jercarol on 4/2/2011, 10:34 pm

Yes but you would ask me now that I did a virus sweep and deleted everything including my Histroy!!!!!!!!!! ARG! I will sit down when I have more time and search it. I remember I found it under some odd search phrase.

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Post  camprn on 4/2/2011, 11:17 pm

oh, no worries, It's not necessary,I was just curious. thanks though!

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