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Post  fire fightn fool on 4/7/2011, 8:57 pm

Hi Guys,
I've been lurking around here awhile, but this is my first post. I'm new here, but not to the square foot method. I'm located in the City of St. Louis, but I'm fortunate (or unfortunate when it comes to cutting grass and raking leaves) to have a home with one of the bigger lots in the city.

I had a small home with a small yard in the mid to late 80's and had my first square foot garden then. ( I might add, it was quite successful) But, as life goes on and you acquire bigger and better things (like a larger home, with a large lot) I ended up with a traditional row garden. Biggest mistake I ever made. That was soon abandoned due to the amount of work involved, and the mess I would come home to after leaving on vacation for a week. After ten or so years with no garden, I went back back to the square foot method a few years ago. And once again, I have discovered how easy and fool proof this method is.

I've modified the traditional 4'x4' boxes, to 12' x 1.5' boxes. I have four boxes and have left just enough space between my boxes for a lawnmower to fit. (I think I left 30"). My squares are 12"x 18"- I just add 50% to the recommended planting per square and find it works just fine. I guess technically you could say I have a "Square Foot and a Half" garden. Why that size? That's the size of the free wood I acquired and I wanted to use all of it that I could. In my book, free is always better than anything I have to pay for. My main problem has been fighting the tree rats (squirrels), but a wire mesh cage seems to have been the answer.

Right now, I've got broccoli, cauliflower, onions, peas, spinach, beats, carrots, and radishes in the ground and it seems as if every thing is doing well. Time will tell.

I did try the trellis netting last year, and found it to be a miserable failure. It worked well for tomatoes and cukes for awhile, but around the first part of August, the whole works rotted and I ended up with vines all over the ground. I've had my eye on some cattle panel, and I think it will be the answer to the trellis netting disaster. As a bonus, it should outlast me. I guess a trip to a farm supply store is in order soon.

Thats enough of my rambling for now, I've learned a ton by lurking around here, and I'm sure I'll learn a whole lot more from your collective knowledge and wisdom - plus I can probably add a thing or two about what does not work. Believe me, I have managed to screw up my fair share over the years!

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Post  boffer on 4/7/2011, 9:04 pm

Welcome to the forum. I've seen you logged in occasionally now and then. I hope you've decided to speak up not only to talk about gardening, but to help keep your STL brethren in check! That backyardbirdgardener needs a little tough love once in a while!

I look forward to seeing your experienced contributions to the forum, as well as your pictures.
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Post  fire fightn fool on 4/7/2011, 9:13 pm

There is a wealth of knowledge here. I do not know how I ever got by without the internet.
Kind of funny you mention the tough love - I hear that from my wife all the time - says I need it to keep me in check.
I just think that she has no sense of appreciation of all the fine "treasures" that I drag home. Oh, and the word drag is not an exaggeration - some things literally have to be drug. They are just to good to pass up Laughing I'm a sucker for the word "free".

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Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 4/8/2011, 12:03 am

C'mon, Boffer. Et tu, Brute?

The Lou is an unstoppable force! We stand united in our SFG pride. Cross us, and may angry red birds strip your sunflowers of seeds before you can put them in your mouth......and kick the snot out of your baseball team....lol.

Anyway, so great to have another St. Louisan coming on board. We have quite the growing army showing up here. I love it!

I'm still a County guy. I live out by 44 and 270 in Crestwood.

We would all love to see your garden. If you can, post pics soon. And, feel free to stop by and contribute your knowledge in any of the subforums, especially our regional forum in the Northern and Central Midwest. We have quite the baseball rivalry going on in there right now, as well as, calendars of events and some weather watching to help us in the garden.

Look forward to seeing you around. As you can tell, we love to rib each other.....even if I am the lightning rod.
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Re: Another St. Louisian

Post  boffer on 4/8/2011, 12:09 am

Our stellar jays can beat up your cardinals any day!
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Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 4/8/2011, 12:17 am

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Post  fire fightn fool on 4/8/2011, 8:53 am

@BackyardBirdGardner wrote:

Anyway, so great to have another St. Louisan coming on board. We have quite the growing army showing up here. I love it!

I'm still a County guy. I live out by 44 and 270 in Crestwood.

We would all love to see your garden. If you can, post pics soon. And, feel free to stop by and contribute your knowledge in any of the subforums, especially our regional forum in the Northern and Central Midwest. We have quite the baseball rivalry going on in there right now, as well as, calendars of events and some weather watching to help us in the garden.

Look forward to seeing you around. As you can tell, we love to rib each other.....even if I am the lightning rod.

We are mighty close - I'm located at 44 and Jamieson and seem to live in the box stores out your way. I'm in the process of a "simple" (yea, right) rehab of a house for my oldest son so Lowes and Home Depot are my current hangouts.

I'll get a picture or two in the next couple of days - It's just taking the time to get the pics.

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