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Help the Honey Bees
“Clothianidin is highly toxic to honey bees.”
- Leaked EPA Document, November 2, 2010
We SFGers need our bees find out more. Our poor honey bees need all the help they can get. How many honey bees have you seen this year so far?
- Leaked EPA Document, November 2, 2010
We SFGers need our bees find out more. Our poor honey bees need all the help they can get. How many honey bees have you seen this year so far?

shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
This pesticide is sold and known as Poncho and manufactured by Bayer. Poncho info Clothianidin has been banned in Germany since 2008 and is suspected to be a contributor to Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD). The estimated losses of colonies this year is greater than 40%. Please read and follow all label instructions.

camprn
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Posts: 5533
Join date: 2010-03-06
Age: 49
Location: Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

Re: Help the Honey Bees
Clothianidin is also in some inocculents, mainly corn, read your ingredients. It transfers through the plant to the bee when they come get the pollen. Very unlikely it is in small gardeners innoculents, but check anyway.

FarmerValerie-
Posts: 1611
Join date: 2011-01-29
Age: 45
Location: NE Texas, 75501, Zone 8a

Re: Help the Honey Bees
It also persists and acummulates in the soil. Very bad stuff, needs to be banned here as well.

shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
Have you seen any honey bees? I have only seen bumble bees so far this year.
that's me looking for honey bees.
that's me looking for honey bees.
shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
We have some, but we bought a hive, then hubby started getting calls to remove hives in barns, trees, and houses, we currently have 3 on our property and 2 elsewhere. The ones he extracts are going to his dads, the ones he buys can stay here, and I don't want more than 2 on our 1 acre. We want them for the garden, but not too many, and we have goats, are getting chickens, and rabbits. Both of my parents are allergic, dad deathly so, and I am allergic to red wasps (not deathly, just swells up pretty bad and cannot use that arm or leg for 2-3 days) so I am cautious of the bees. My dad was not allergic as a kid and developed the allergy over the years.
On a slightly different note, I was stung by a wasp the other day, darn thing just flew into the back of my arm, and on day 2 it was swollen (huge) tight and itched like crazy. I could use that arm, but not much, my elbow and wrist hurt, but not my shoulder, I also had fever in it. On day 3 I washed it with goats milk soap, put some anti-itch cream on it, and took my benadryl, within 18 hours the fever was gone. The only thing in my routine for caring for the sting was the goats milk soap. It immediately took the itch out. If you get the chance to get some goats milk soap, get it and add it to your arsenal for first aid. Do I really know for sure it was the soap, no, do I care, no.
On a slightly different note, I was stung by a wasp the other day, darn thing just flew into the back of my arm, and on day 2 it was swollen (huge) tight and itched like crazy. I could use that arm, but not much, my elbow and wrist hurt, but not my shoulder, I also had fever in it. On day 3 I washed it with goats milk soap, put some anti-itch cream on it, and took my benadryl, within 18 hours the fever was gone. The only thing in my routine for caring for the sting was the goats milk soap. It immediately took the itch out. If you get the chance to get some goats milk soap, get it and add it to your arsenal for first aid. Do I really know for sure it was the soap, no, do I care, no.

FarmerValerie-
Posts: 1611
Join date: 2011-01-29
Age: 45
Location: NE Texas, 75501, Zone 8a

Re: Help the Honey Bees
It is 25F here this morning but the forecast is for temps in the 50s today. There are no blossoms out yet so if the bees fly today they will be looking for early pollen from trees. I have not yet seen any feral bees out and about. I did go to a beekeepers club meeting the other night and the members as a whole probably lost about 40% of their colonies this past winter, which was long and cold.
Last year I saw few honey bees here in my yard, I had lots of bumbles and a few masons were noted.
Last year I saw few honey bees here in my yard, I had lots of bumbles and a few masons were noted.

camprn
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Join date: 2010-03-06
Age: 49
Location: Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

Re: Help the Honey Bees
Still no honey bees here even though the weather is fine. Thanks for the GM soap tip Val.

shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
Was out admiring the Crocus's yesterday afternoon and saw about a dozen honey bees flitting from flower to flower... cute little guys. Last year was the first year I had seen them in quite a while, so hopefully there is a nice hive nearby.
Mark
Mark

fiddleman-
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Join date: 2011-03-21
Location: Mid Michigan
Re: Help the Honey Bees
That is good news.

shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
I've got a few honey bees flying around but not many. In my area, you aren't going to see honey bees unless you live within several miles of someone who raises them. Even then they have to find you first.
I have bumble bees and carpenter bees though and they are zipping around my azalea and holly bushes and dogwood and red bub trees!
I have bumble bees and carpenter bees though and they are zipping around my azalea and holly bushes and dogwood and red bub trees!

dizzygardener-
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Join date: 2011-01-26
Location: WNC 6b
Re: Help the Honey Bees
I used to see them all the time in AK growing up and not a person around me had a hive. Here in FL. there are many more bee keepers but I have only seen bumbles and carpender bees the last 4 years with one or 2 honey bees per season.

shannon1- Posts: 1693
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: zone 9a St.Johns county FL
Re: Help the Honey Bees
My hubby is extremely allergic to them so although I loooove growing those giant sunflowers I have been torn between maybe just ONE little giant sunflower or my DH....some days it's a tough call 


pelujilla- Posts: 87
Join date: 2011-03-31
Location: St Johns, Fl (NE Zone 9)
Re: Help the Honey Bees
I've got 'em .... and probably enough for all of you
So far our encounters have been friendly & amicable, since they have the day shift & I have the night shift, so we only cross paths at sunrise.
Usually when the plants start buzzing at me, I know it's time to get a shower and head out for work.
I just hope they don't start working nights !!
Seriously though, I've always had bee's (cute little brown/yellow), but this year I've got these fluffy black/gold steroid bee's that look like they weigh a half-pound each.
Not sure what I'm doing different ....but the bee's are no joke this year.
So far our encounters have been friendly & amicable, since they have the day shift & I have the night shift, so we only cross paths at sunrise.
Usually when the plants start buzzing at me, I know it's time to get a shower and head out for work.
I just hope they don't start working nights !!
Seriously though, I've always had bee's (cute little brown/yellow), but this year I've got these fluffy black/gold steroid bee's that look like they weigh a half-pound each.
Not sure what I'm doing different ....but the bee's are no joke this year.

acara-
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Join date: 2010-08-27
Age: 42
Location: Wesley Chapel, Florida (Zone 9)
Re: Help the Honey Bees
Do they look like they are wearing little black biker jackets? Those are carpenter bees. Mostly harmless. They are the most popular here. I talk as much to them as I do my plants.

nancy-
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Location: Cincinnati, Ohio (6a)
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