Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» What are you eating from your garden today?
by trolleydriver Today at 5:40 pm

» Garlic Growing Lovers
by Turan Today at 5:14 pm

» Lower south Oct 2017
by brianj555 Today at 5:02 pm

» Sowing Experiment! Anyone Tried This?
by brianj555 Today at 4:50 pm

» Thumbs Up????
by brianj555 Today at 4:47 pm

» BOOK GIVEAWAY - ENDS 10/20/17
by CapeCoddess Today at 3:48 pm

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by countrynaturals Today at 3:37 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by countrynaturals Today at 3:34 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by countrynaturals Today at 3:31 pm

» Gardening & Homesteading Skills Summit REGISTER NOW!
by countrynaturals Today at 3:28 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by Turan Today at 12:01 pm

» Hello from West Coast Of Scotland
by walshevak Today at 11:44 am

» Hello from Gilbert, AZ
by No_Such_Reality Today at 9:57 am

» A great offer for a local SFG,er
by AtlantaMarie Today at 9:16 am

» Gardening in Central Pennsylvania, 3rd year SFG
by sanderson Today at 12:17 am

» Today's Harvest
by brianj555 Yesterday at 8:21 pm

» new greenhouse got drafted
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:08 pm

» Monarch Supporter
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:55 pm

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:50 pm

» New England October 2017
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 1:09 pm

» October Avatar: Don't Fence Me In
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 11:45 am

» Does MM improve with age?
by countrynaturals 10/15/2017, 3:51 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by trolleydriver 10/15/2017, 3:28 pm

» Butterfly Junction
by countrynaturals 10/15/2017, 11:34 am

» Leaf-Footed squash bugs
by sanderson 10/14/2017, 11:21 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2017!
by Scorpio Rising 10/14/2017, 9:12 pm

» Tomato Questions
by Scorpio Rising 10/14/2017, 9:06 pm

» large plant ID stakes
by has55 10/14/2017, 4:02 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by sanderson 10/14/2017, 3:12 am

» First time growing corn
by sanderson 10/14/2017, 3:07 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

tomatos wilting

View previous topic View next topic Go down

tomatos wilting

Post  walshevak on 4/12/2011, 7:59 am

My Filipino friends are losing their tomatos. Good size, seemingly healthy plants about 1 foot high are just "melting". The plants act like they a. are not getting enough water or b. drowning. The plant stays green, no spots, stems still sturdy, but they just wilt. Roots do not have the reddish brown color generally associated with fulsarium wilt. Is there anything they can do for the remaining plants and/or to help with future plants. I don't know if any of the seeds he is using are the resistant kind. I do know I sent him some heirloom seeds.

Anybody got any advice I can pass along. This is the first time planting in any of the the beds, but the soil is local. Has some compost and bat guano, quartz dust. The marigolds and basil planted in the same bed are going strong.

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast
avatar
walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4360
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 74
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Assumption

Post  acara on 4/12/2011, 10:50 am

I'm assuming that your friend has gone through all the normal checks (water, NPK, etc, shade) & it sounds like this is affecting multiple plants?

Also, is the wilt uniform or does it start at top and spread progressively?

My suggestion would be to pull an entire plant (one), roots and all.

-Cut the main stem at about 3" above the soil line ....rinse the base, inspect the roots (your looking for egg sacs or remnants), then look for any damage at the soil line (it will look like you ringed a barked plant, if insects have been working on it.

- From the section you cut off, look down the stem at the cut ... your looking to see if anything bored down the center. If you dont see any tunneling/boring, keep cutting from bottom to top at about 2" increments (critters don't always enter from the bottom, especially if you trim the plants).

If the plant looks fine, it's probably not insects ..... so you'd be looking at V-wilt (verticullium), F-wilt(Fusarrium).... sometimes the discoloration doesn't come until after the wilt has progressed). Trouble is, unless you can get it analyzed....it's just an educated guess

There's another form of bacterial wilt and another type of fungal/viral wilt, but the bacterial is hard to diagnose (supposedly able to water test yourself, but I've never been able to get the "indicator results) and the other looks like dampening off and/or insect damage (sometimes the ring will be white & look like mildew).

Again ... really hard to self-diagnose tomatoes because there is just so much that can go wrong, above/below the soil.



Last edited by acara on 4/12/2011, 11:13 am; edited 2 times in total
avatar
acara

Male Posts : 1012
Join date : 2010-08-27
Age : 48
Location : Wesley Chapel, Florida (Zone 9)

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  dizzygardener on 4/12/2011, 10:54 am

Do you have any pictures? We really need to see what the plant looks like.

Pass this link on to your friends.

http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/diagnostickeys/TomWlt/TomWiltKey.html

This site lists most of the diseases that affect tomatoes and has pictures of each. Tell them to have a look at the virus section, and in particular, the curly top viruses.


Also check this site: http://www.absp2.cornell.edu/projects/intersect.cfm?productid=3&countryid=3

It mentions tomato yellow leaf curl virus as one of the leading causes of tomato loss in the Philippines. It's at the bottom of the page.

This site has more detail regarding TYLCV: http://www.seminis.ru/resources/disease_guides/Tomato/tomato_yellow_leaf_en.asp

HTH
avatar
dizzygardener

Female Posts : 668
Join date : 2011-01-26
Location : WNC 6b

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  dizzygardener on 4/12/2011, 11:00 am

In general the following site seems full of good info on plant diseases that are prevalent in Europe and Asia. Have your friends sift through it.

http://www.seminis.ru/resources/disease_guides/tomato/tomato_en.asp
avatar
dizzygardener

Female Posts : 668
Join date : 2011-01-26
Location : WNC 6b

View user profile

Back to top Go down

update on wilting tomatos

Post  walshevak on 4/18/2011, 10:30 am

Filipino friends consulted with the organic teacher and decided it was a worm in the roots. He sold them this

and recommended a compost tea with yogurt and molasses in it. He also gave back seedlings from some tomato seeds I had sent and he started in his greenhouse. He was very interested in the heirloom hot climate tomatos and is testing them for use in PI.

My friends started a new mater box with compost from Western Philippine University's agri program and the Genovese tomatoes.


After losing more than half of his original planting, the remaining have perked up and are doing well for now.

Oh, and the dog was chasing a critter and tore up almost all of the herb box. So they are planting again. Kale is still the best crop and corn has started ears.

Kay

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast
avatar
walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4360
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 74
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  walshevak on 4/22/2011, 6:52 pm

The wilting tomatos are getting well. Here is the first bloom



And here are what's left after losing most of the crop.




including some replacements

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast
avatar
walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4360
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 74
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  Furbalsmom on 4/22/2011, 7:46 pm

Those are looking very sturdy. Seems like the crisis has passed and the teacher's treatment worked.

That compost in the new tomato bed looks so rich and loose. Here's hoping they do well.
avatar
Furbalsmom

Female Posts : 3141
Join date : 2010-06-10
Age : 70
Location : Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  walshevak on 5/9/2011, 6:53 am

Alas, the treatments did not sustain. All the tomatos in the original beds are gone. But the tomatos in the new bed are doing well. Cukes wilted as well and are gone.

It has been decided that the local dirt has something in it and to not use it for tomatos again. However, it is doing well for kale, lettuce, basil and chard. Beans will be the next crop tried.

____________________________

A WEED IS A FLOWER GROWING IN THE WRONG PLACE
Elizabeth City, NC
Find more about Weather in Elizabeth City, NC
Click for weather forecast
avatar
walshevak

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 4360
Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 74
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: tomatos wilting

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum