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Keeping MM from spilling out under sloped boxes?

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Keeping MM from spilling out under sloped boxes?

Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 8:19 pm

We staked our boxes to be level on the slope. But it's an issue keeping the MM from spilling out underneath. It's already taking me 1.5 the normal amount of MM to fill the boxes because of the slope issues.

We started out putting rocks in the gaps. But it was a little awkward. So I put strips of styrofoam in the gaps, that came with packing material. But that is popping out.

Has anyone else had to fill in the gaps under sloped boxes?

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/30/2011, 8:25 pm

I used cardboard on the inside edges folded.. so it sat in the formed to the inside of the box.. and poured the soil in.

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Post  Glendale-gardener on 4/30/2011, 8:25 pm

I am working on that this weekend myself. I'm using cedar shims. (my slope isn't too bad)

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Post  camprn on 4/30/2011, 8:41 pm

My boxes also had gaps at the bottom but not as big as your box gaps. I ended up building a stone foundation for the lower side, then I lined the interior with unwaxed cardboard and then put the MM on top of that. It worked well for me, but it was a chore, as I am not the best dry stone wall builder. I think you can see a bit of it in the photos in my personal album. Let us know what you settle on. Good Luck!!! Very Happy

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Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 8:43 pm

@Glendale-gardener wrote:I am working on that this weekend myself. I'm using cedar shims. (my slope isn't too bad)

Excellent idea! I'll look for those.

The cardboard is also a good idea - I used cardboard under my MM as a weed barrier. Would it hold up as a soil support? I could see me having to rebuild after every storm. Smile

We certainly have plenty of rocks around here! We were thinking of using wood chips as a mortar between the rocks. But like you say - a chore. I think a cedar cheapo shingle or shim might do the trick.


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Post  kilda on 4/30/2011, 8:46 pm

could you use bricks under the gapped side to fill it in?

we leveled ours by digging them in a little on the uphill side, and used that dirt to build up a little on the downhill side. sort of a terraced look. It was a pain in the butt to do but looks good and that way we don't have any gaps.

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/30/2011, 8:47 pm

I put the cardboard in like it was molded to the box.. not just flat. . It works soil is staying in. I have cardboard on the walkways of my garden too.. cant wait to put it through out.
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Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 8:52 pm

Wow. Cardboard as a garden walkway? Doesn't cardboard disintegrate tho? I've heard of using it as sheet mulching, and I believe it just decomposes like compost?

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/30/2011, 8:55 pm

Yes it will decompose, but it will keep my walk ways free of weeds for quite a while. If I could put down pine chips over it I would. Cardboard is free, so thats works for me Smile
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Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 9:48 pm

Oh! You do it for the weeds. I get it now.

I love cardboard, because it does decompose and helps the soil.

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/30/2011, 9:51 pm

@NHGardener wrote:Oh! You do it for the weeds. I get it now.

I love cardboard, because it does decompose and helps the soil.

Sorry I wasnt more clear the first time Smile Yes the weeds in the walk ways drive me insane. It makes me not want to go in the garden. It has helped me tons having it there this year. Ive asked for Mothers Day to have the rest of the cardboard brought in.
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Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 9:53 pm

Wow. Where do you get your cardboard?

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Post  Ha-v-v on 4/30/2011, 10:08 pm

A furniture store in the town over has large pieces of cardboard. I just ask and they say sure.
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Post  NHGardener on 4/30/2011, 10:38 pm

Oooh. Great idea.

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Post  elliephant on 5/1/2011, 9:33 am

I've had that problem and what has worked best is weed cloth stapled to the inside of the box.

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Post  Old Hippie on 5/1/2011, 11:34 am

Elliephant's idea of the weed cloth sounds good to me. The problem you will have with cardboard is that it decomposes after a season and then you will have the same problem next year. You might need to put something sturdy under the bottom edge of the low side to keep it from sinking.

Cardboard makes a great weed barrier in my pathways. I can get lots of it at work so it is free. I do use weed barrier cloth for some places but like to save it for areas that are hard to get at or inside the boxes. Like Hav says, furniture places are usually more than happy to let you have their leftover cardboard. The bigger pieces are really nice. Then I cover the cardboard with wood shavings that I get from my DH's wood shop or from a couple of local cabinet makers. It lasts one season, sometimes two. Then I just scoop it all up and put it in the compost and put down new. Some people have had trouble with pill bugs when they use cardboard but so far I haven't had any trouble.

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Post  NHGardener on 5/1/2011, 12:15 pm

@elliephant wrote:I've had that problem and what has worked best is weed cloth stapled to the inside of the box.

Ooh. That's another excellent idea. Too bad I didn't think of that earlier.

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