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Post  violentlyserene on 9/22/2011, 1:02 pm

My husband and I have just moved into our first house and I'm over the moon at the possibility of a garden for the first time. I did some gardening with my mom when I was a kid but it mostly consisted of picking prolific easy plants by accident and using miracle grow.

My research tells me that there's a bit of wiggle room here in the PNW for plants thanks to our mild weather but I'm having a dreadful time figuring what is reasonable for my conditions and what's reasonable for my experience.

I want to put together either a 2x2 or 2x3 box with a bottom so it's portable but after that it gets muddy.

I'd like to grow garlic, carrots, scallions,and red potatoes for vegetables and then an herb garden as with at least with basil, and rosemary and thyme, oregano, and cilantro (this one I want most of all). I know that rosemary does better in dryer soil than the rest and that mint will try to take over everything so I was planning to put those in their own containers. Other than that, I'm totally lost. I get the basics of SFG and find it totally brilliant. If I could sort out what plants will work where and when, this could go super well for me.

My house is a duplex so I only have 3 sides. There's a side yard facing south that seems to get a lot of sun without many shadows interferring, a backyard facing west with patchy sun and the front yard faces east with reasonably good sun. There's a little brick section that could work work for setting up a small garden area.

While I'd like to keep most of this outdoors, I do have really big windows facing east and west that get good sun for things that won't do well in the conditions here or whatever other reason. I've also got a couple aerogardens for starting seedlings if that would make this venture to be more successful. I'd really love to be able to harvest something over the winter and I suspect it should be possible with the variety of possible locations I have but the logitistics are making me a tad nutty.

Anything you can help with would be hugely appreciated! Thank you.

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Post  Kelejan on 9/22/2011, 3:32 pm

violentlyserene. Just a quick hello to you. I am sure someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly to give advice. I don't knoe enough yet myself and I would not like to give you wrong info. All the best in your new venture.

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Post  janezee on 9/23/2011, 1:00 am

Just a quick hello for now. I'm new here myself, but I live in your region.

Congratulations on your new home. It sounds perfect for gardening and landscaping. I'm jealous that you have so much sun.

For now, I'd suggest that you build your first box and get a garlic head to plant, and shop the sales for some herbs to tide you over the winter. Lemon and French thyme, oregano, and sage have overwintered fine for me here. Lavender, too.

If you're not totally overwhelmed by moving, perhaps the next best thing is to make a list of what you most want to grow, and how many squares you think you will need to accomplish that. You won't be right the first time, but you'll have a general idea how much space you'll want to devote to gardening.
Then guesstimate how much room you'll want for other activities, i.e. barbecuing, croquet, pathways, hammock, etc. You'll be wrong on that, too, in the beginning, but it's good to have a guess. Then it's arranging, just like furniture in the house.

As you might know, tomatoes are not our best crop in this neck of the woods, but they're almost irresistible. Carrots, beets, potatoes, greens, brassicas, and peas and beans thrive here, though.

Hope this helps a little. Don't be overwhelmed, and start with one sure thing. You can always build and prep boxes in the winter here. Good luck!

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Post  violentlyserene on 9/23/2011, 1:30 am

Thank you, that's very helpful. I considered this further and am thinking a 1 x 2-4 box for herbs plus separate containers for rosemary and mint. For the garlic, will that grow outdoors here or will I need to bring it inside or protect it somehow?

It's good that you mention lavender, I was looking at that today and want to give it a shot.


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Post  WardinWake on 9/23/2011, 5:28 am

@violentlyserene wrote:Thank you, that's very helpful. I considered this further and am thinking a 1 x 2-4 box for herbs plus separate containers for rosemary and mint. For the garlic, will that grow outdoors here or will I need to bring it inside or protect it somehow?

It's good that you mention lavender, I was looking at that today and want to give it a shot.


Howdy SereneOne: Check with your local Extension Agent. The Agent should be listed in the phone directory in the Government section. Also check with your local Master Gardeners who are trained by the Washington State AG college. They usually can be found at the Extension Agent's office. The Agent/Master Gardeners may or may not garden the Square Foot Gardening way, but, they will have knowledge on what to plant and when for your area. Also your local plant nursery will have folks on staff that can give advice and will have in season plants and seeds to sell.

God Bless, Ward and Mary.

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Post  boffer on 9/23/2011, 11:53 am

Hi, and welcome to the forum.

Looks like you have it figured out: cool weather crops are fairly easy to grow, and warm weather crops can be challenging, depending on whether we have a warm or cool summer. Start out by growing the things you like to eat. Each year, make adjustments as necessary. Be aware that you can do everything perfectly, and some things still won't grow to your satisfaction. That's just part of gardening.

I can't help with herbs.

If you haven't made your Mel's Mix yet, all ingredients can be found at McLendon's Hardware and Nursery Stores. I know for sure that the one on 512 and Canyon Road stocks the coarse vermiculite, which is the perfect stuff.

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Post  janezee on 9/23/2011, 3:36 pm

@violentlyserene wrote:Thank you, that's very helpful. I considered this further and am thinking a 1 x 2-4 box for herbs plus separate containers for rosemary and mint. For the garlic, will that grow outdoors here or will I need to bring it inside or protect it somehow?

It's good that you mention lavender, I was looking at that today and want to give it a shot.


I keep my mints in double pots of the same size, above ground, so the that there's about an inch of air between the roots and the ground. Really keeps them from spreading.
I've not had success overwintering rosemary so far, so a protected sunny spot would be good for that. Lavender is a good companion for it. They both like it drier and warmer.

This is my first year growing garlic here in boxes. It needs to be planted next month for harvest next year, spring to summer, depending on the kind. No protection needed at all. We have Skagit Valley Farm Supply out here, which has the best kinds to grow here.

The internet is your best friend for finding out this stuff. Always there when you're awake! This site and so many others. Territorial Seeds and Ed Hume Seeds have lots of regional information to read.

You're gonna have so much fun!

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