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Post  squaredeal on Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:58 am

Has anyone used goose poo either in their compost or directly in the garden? Our area uses a lot of retention ponds for water runoff management which attracts a lot of geese and poo is plentiful. I'm sure my neighbors would be thrilled to see someone cleaning the sidewalks and I would be closer to 5 composts.

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Post  camprn on Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:15 pm

If I had some it would go in the compost to age.

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Post  janezee on Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:05 pm

camprn wrote:If I had some it would go in the compost to age.

Me, too.

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Post  Kelejan on Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:52 pm

I think most poo should be composted before using. I expect there are one or two exceptions, such as rabbit?

Josh would know as he has a couple of pet bunnies.

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Post  Denese on Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:00 pm

Stupid question... How exactly would you collect it? We have Canadian geese everywhere around here. I'm sure I could find a place that would let me "do the clean up". Very Happy

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Post  squaredeal on Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:40 pm

Denese wrote:Stupid question... How exactly would you collect it? We have Canadian geese everywhere around here. I'm sure I could find a place that would let me "do the clean up". Very Happy

The lit'l darlins', and their cousins, Daffy Ducks, express themselves on the sidewalk in front of the retention pond. I took a plastic baggie and picked up the poop, which was very dry and very light and seemed to consist on only grass. Other than exercising my abs, I'm not sure I did much else.

Goose poo, according to the publication " The Impact of Waterfowl on Water Quality: A Literature Review" by Ron Fleming, P. Eng and Heather Frasier, 9/2001 has an N level of 2.2-4.4%, 1.0 - 1.3 P, and 2% K. Remember, these are WILD geese - not fed corn or wheat. Even caged rabbits are fed rabbit food with higher N levels. By the way, the sources did note that the poop didn't have much impact on the ground since basically the birds were excreting the stuff that was already there to begin with.

The real concern I have is pathogens - E.coli and the like. Are avian manure sources worse for bacterial issues than ruminant or monogastric sources? We shall see. I have a call into the Purdue Master Gardener hot line - a question that they decided they would need to "research".

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Post  squaredeal on Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:24 pm

The answer from Purdue extension.

Based on studies, Canada Geese can harbor E coli and other pathogens. Because of that, it is best not to add it to a home compost pile. If used, it should be treated like fresh cow manure which should not be appliled closer than 120 days from harvest of any food crops. It is best worked into the soil immediately to begin the decomposition of any harmful micro-organisms like E coli. A better solution than adding the droppings to the compost pile is to apply them to a separate plot of ground and work them into the soil on a regular basis. Later this could be used as a garden area.

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Post  janezee on Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:46 pm

Wow! Thanks for that information.
Sadly, the geese don't land here, but lots of them are heading south over my neighborhood these days. I keep my hat on.......

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Post  boffer on Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:38 am

janezee wrote:Wow! Thanks for that information.
Sadly, the geese don't land here, but lots of them are heading south over my neighborhood these days. I keep my hat on.......

LOL Incomingggggggggg!

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Post  Kelejan on Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:55 am

Thanks Squaredeal.

We sometimes have many Canada Geese landing on our local soccer fields where young children play.

I am not aware that the droppings are picked up on a regular basis or just left to decompose in situ.

I had better check up on that because of the E.coli and pathogens.affraid

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Post  RoOsTeR on Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am

squaredeal wrote:The answer from Purdue extension.

Based on studies, Canada Geese can harbor E coli and other pathogens. Because of that, it is best not to add it to a home compost pile. If used, it should be treated like fresh cow manure which should not be appliled closer than 120 days from harvest of any food crops. It is best worked into the soil immediately to begin the decomposition of any harmful micro-organisms like E coli. A better solution than adding the droppings to the compost pile is to apply them to a separate plot of ground and work them into the soil on a regular basis. Later this could be used as a garden area.

I would have to agree here. Obviously your extension agent is going to be a lot more knowledgable (on the book end) of your area, but wild birds and their droppings are less than desirable. We try to keep "outside" birds away from our flock of chickens as best we can which is basically impossible lol. But yeah, birds like geese flying around carry lots of bad things. Disease, pests, etc. We don't bring new birds in unless we hatch ourselves at this point, and if we do, we isolate them for a few weeks first. We also have our birds tested annually by CSU. Salmonella, ecoli, Avarian flu, etc are not usually "typical" on small farms and what not. Its usually bought in from an outside source. Something like ecoli and salmonella are biggies. Not worth the chance in my opinion. Perfect example is "farm fresh eggs" from us little people, salmonella is just not real common. We try to keep our flocks closed, and the ickies out Very Happy
If you really want some poo. Try a small local farmer. Most of us depend a great deal on our animals, so we take extra good care of them to keep the bad stuff out.

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Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  janezee on Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:29 am

I'm loving this thread.
Years ago, I was an monthly weekend caretaker for a farm on a private island/bird sanctuary. One spring when we arrived, (dh & dd), the entire farm was covered in goose poop, and we were slippin' and a-slidin'.
If you're old enough to remember the Beach Boys, you might remember the tune "Little Deuce Coupe." We spent the 4 days there laughing and changing the words to, you guessed it, "My Little Goose Poop!" I still sing it when I see........

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