Square Foot Gardening Forum

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Compost: Bekeley 18 day [hot] method
by sanderson Today at 3:28 am

» SFG for shade?
by sanderson Today at 3:17 am

» The Lazy Gardener
by Marc Iverson Today at 12:51 am

» Herbs and Vegetables for the Lazy Gardener
by Marc Iverson Today at 12:28 am

» Worm Tube for the SFG
by Marc Iverson Today at 12:15 am

» Newbie in Las Vegas, year 1!
by brainchasm Yesterday at 11:46 pm

» Mississippi Gulf Coast! Woohoo!
by Marc Iverson Yesterday at 11:35 pm

» New England October 2014
by Marc Iverson Yesterday at 11:32 pm

» To Screen or not to screen ???
by jimmy cee Yesterday at 10:03 pm

» MEL'S MIX CALCULATOR not working?
by Allyn Yesterday at 9:23 pm

» Bed Raising
by sanderson Yesterday at 8:54 pm

» PNW: October 2014
by Marc Iverson Yesterday at 4:41 pm

» The website squarefootgardening.com is down!
by brainchasm Yesterday at 4:00 pm

» Table top getting extra weeks of sun
by CapeCoddess Yesterday at 3:56 pm

» moved our beds
by FamilyGardening 10/21/2014, 9:35 pm

» Are you seeing bees?
by AtlantaMarie 10/21/2014, 6:57 pm

» Pill bugs!
by jimmy cee 10/21/2014, 2:55 pm

» Friday's Rookie Topic VIII: French Tarragon
by Marc Iverson 10/21/2014, 1:17 pm

» Oct in the Lower South
by Ha-v-v 10/21/2014, 10:03 am

» Friday Rookie Topics 2012
by johnp 10/20/2014, 3:27 pm

» Friday Rookie Topics 2011
by camprn 10/20/2014, 1:43 pm

» How much Rabbit Poo on/in garlic bed?
by brainchasm 10/20/2014, 12:30 pm

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by floyd1440 10/20/2014, 8:53 am

» Gardening in England
by walshevak 10/20/2014, 6:56 am

» Caprese is easy with home made cheese
by sanderson 10/20/2014, 4:10 am

» Hello from Northeastern IL.
by sanderson 10/20/2014, 2:11 am

» Blight
by yolos 10/19/2014, 9:10 pm

» 2014 SFG in Brooks, GA
by Windmere 10/19/2014, 7:41 pm

» Mid-South: October 2014
by Windmere 10/19/2014, 7:37 pm

» Sept tomatoes
by floyd1440 10/19/2014, 6:16 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Geese poo as compost

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Geese poo as compost

Post  squaredeal on 10/5/2011, 11:58 am

Has anyone used goose poo either in their compost or directly in the garden? Our area uses a lot of retention ponds for water runoff management which attracts a lot of geese and poo is plentiful. I'm sure my neighbors would be thrilled to see someone cleaning the sidewalks and I would be closer to 5 composts.

squaredeal

Female Posts: 192
Join date: 2011-05-09
Location: Indianapolis=6a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  camprn on 10/5/2011, 12:15 pm

If I had some it would go in the compost to age.

____________________________

35 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books


camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts: 12743
Join date: 2010-03-06
Age: 52
Location: Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  janezee on 10/6/2011, 12:05 pm

camprn wrote:If I had some it would go in the compost to age.

Me, too.

janezee

Female Posts: 242
Join date: 2011-09-21
Age: 107
Location: Away

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  Kelejan on 10/6/2011, 5:52 pm

I think most poo should be composted before using. I expect there are one or two exceptions, such as rabbit?

Josh would know as he has a couple of pet bunnies.

Kelejan

Female Posts: 1807
Join date: 2011-04-24
Age: 79
Location: Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  Denese on 10/7/2011, 2:00 pm

Stupid question... How exactly would you collect it? We have Canadian geese everywhere around here. I'm sure I could find a place that would let me "do the clean up". Very Happy

Denese

Female Posts: 322
Join date: 2011-05-31
Age: 59
Location: Southeast Michigan

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  squaredeal on 10/7/2011, 2:40 pm

Denese wrote:Stupid question... How exactly would you collect it? We have Canadian geese everywhere around here. I'm sure I could find a place that would let me "do the clean up". Very Happy

The lit'l darlins', and their cousins, Daffy Ducks, express themselves on the sidewalk in front of the retention pond. I took a plastic baggie and picked up the poop, which was very dry and very light and seemed to consist on only grass. Other than exercising my abs, I'm not sure I did much else.

Goose poo, according to the publication " The Impact of Waterfowl on Water Quality: A Literature Review" by Ron Fleming, P. Eng and Heather Frasier, 9/2001 has an N level of 2.2-4.4%, 1.0 - 1.3 P, and 2% K. Remember, these are WILD geese - not fed corn or wheat. Even caged rabbits are fed rabbit food with higher N levels. By the way, the sources did note that the poop didn't have much impact on the ground since basically the birds were excreting the stuff that was already there to begin with.

The real concern I have is pathogens - E.coli and the like. Are avian manure sources worse for bacterial issues than ruminant or monogastric sources? We shall see. I have a call into the Purdue Master Gardener hot line - a question that they decided they would need to "research".

squaredeal

Female Posts: 192
Join date: 2011-05-09
Location: Indianapolis=6a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  squaredeal on 10/7/2011, 11:24 pm

The answer from Purdue extension.

Based on studies, Canada Geese can harbor E coli and other pathogens. Because of that, it is best not to add it to a home compost pile. If used, it should be treated like fresh cow manure which should not be appliled closer than 120 days from harvest of any food crops. It is best worked into the soil immediately to begin the decomposition of any harmful micro-organisms like E coli. A better solution than adding the droppings to the compost pile is to apply them to a separate plot of ground and work them into the soil on a regular basis. Later this could be used as a garden area.

squaredeal

Female Posts: 192
Join date: 2011-05-09
Location: Indianapolis=6a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  janezee on 10/7/2011, 11:46 pm

Wow! Thanks for that information.
Sadly, the geese don't land here, but lots of them are heading south over my neighborhood these days. I keep my hat on.......

janezee

Female Posts: 242
Join date: 2011-09-21
Age: 107
Location: Away

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  boffer on 10/8/2011, 12:38 am

janezee wrote:Wow! Thanks for that information.
Sadly, the geese don't land here, but lots of them are heading south over my neighborhood these days. I keep my hat on.......

LOL Incomingggggggggg!

____________________________

Last frost date (50%): April 15     First frost date (50%): Oct 15    
Zone: Irrelevant

boffer

Male Posts: 6406
Join date: 2010-02-26
Age: 61
Location: yelm, wa, usa

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  Kelejan on 10/8/2011, 12:55 am

Thanks Squaredeal.

We sometimes have many Canada Geese landing on our local soccer fields where young children play.

I am not aware that the droppings are picked up on a regular basis or just left to decompose in situ.

I had better check up on that because of the E.coli and pathogens.affraid

Kelejan

Female Posts: 1807
Join date: 2011-04-24
Age: 79
Location: Castlegar, British Columbia

View user profile http://www.castlegarinkspot.ca

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  RoOsTeR on 10/8/2011, 11:10 am

squaredeal wrote:The answer from Purdue extension.

Based on studies, Canada Geese can harbor E coli and other pathogens. Because of that, it is best not to add it to a home compost pile. If used, it should be treated like fresh cow manure which should not be appliled closer than 120 days from harvest of any food crops. It is best worked into the soil immediately to begin the decomposition of any harmful micro-organisms like E coli. A better solution than adding the droppings to the compost pile is to apply them to a separate plot of ground and work them into the soil on a regular basis. Later this could be used as a garden area.

I would have to agree here. Obviously your extension agent is going to be a lot more knowledgable (on the book end) of your area, but wild birds and their droppings are less than desirable. We try to keep "outside" birds away from our flock of chickens as best we can which is basically impossible lol. But yeah, birds like geese flying around carry lots of bad things. Disease, pests, etc. We don't bring new birds in unless we hatch ourselves at this point, and if we do, we isolate them for a few weeks first. We also have our birds tested annually by CSU. Salmonella, ecoli, Avarian flu, etc are not usually "typical" on small farms and what not. Its usually bought in from an outside source. Something like ecoli and salmonella are biggies. Not worth the chance in my opinion. Perfect example is "farm fresh eggs" from us little people, salmonella is just not real common. We try to keep our flocks closed, and the ickies out Very Happy
If you really want some poo. Try a small local farmer. Most of us depend a great deal on our animals, so we take extra good care of them to keep the bad stuff out.

RoOsTeR

Male Posts: 3663
Join date: 2011-10-04

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Geese poo as compost

Post  janezee on 10/9/2011, 11:29 am

I'm loving this thread.
Years ago, I was an monthly weekend caretaker for a farm on a private island/bird sanctuary. One spring when we arrived, (dh & dd), the entire farm was covered in goose poop, and we were slippin' and a-slidin'.
If you're old enough to remember the Beach Boys, you might remember the tune "Little Deuce Coupe." We spent the 4 days there laughing and changing the words to, you guessed it, "My Little Goose Poop!" I still sing it when I see........

janezee

Female Posts: 242
Join date: 2011-09-21
Age: 107
Location: Away

View user profile

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum