Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Three Sisters Thursday
by mlpii66 Today at 9:45 am

» Store Bought Compost
by mlpii66 Today at 9:14 am

» garden ready need better weather
by mlpii66 Today at 9:09 am

» Sprouting seeds
by camprn Today at 6:28 am

» Amaranth
by AtlantaMarie Today at 4:25 am

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by AtlantaMarie Today at 4:24 am

» Senseless Banter...
by AtlantaMarie Today at 4:21 am

» Northern California & Coastal Valleys - What are you doing this month?
by sanderson Today at 3:54 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by llama momma Today at 1:31 am

» N & C Midwest: April 2017!
by llama momma Today at 1:18 am

» Japanese Beetle Grub Insecticide
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 9:36 pm

» Double summer squash flower
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 9:05 pm

» New England April 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 8:55 pm

» who has chickens
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 7:45 pm

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by yolos Yesterday at 6:38 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 5:51 pm

» Spaghetti Squash Recipes
by newbeone Yesterday at 2:27 pm

» Carrot Week 2017!
by CapeCoddess Yesterday at 12:48 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in April 2017?
by Kelejan Yesterday at 12:34 pm

» Geezer's 17
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 11:25 am

» Compost for Mel's Mix
by TNGeezer Yesterday at 10:12 am

» Hullo from SW Ohio
by TNGeezer Yesterday at 10:05 am

» Hello from SE Michigan
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:30 am

» Hello from Chino, CA (Zone 10a)
by sanderson Yesterday at 4:21 am

» Please comment on the plant layout for 2017
by greenthumbtobe 4/26/2017, 9:01 pm

» My "Old Deck" Table Top Garden today
by nrstooge 4/26/2017, 7:15 pm

» GF Collard Greens, Kale Recipes
by MBroman 4/26/2017, 5:50 pm

» California's Drought
by countrynaturals 4/26/2017, 11:52 am

» Ants.
by AtlantaMarie 4/26/2017, 7:37 am

» to solarize, or not...I'm torn
by AtlantaMarie 4/26/2017, 7:27 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

Shallots

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/16/2015, 7:46 am

Before I ask my stupid question of the day I have to calm down. I went out at first light this AM and found that my beets and chard (just coming up) were dug up by my dog. I am still restrained but boiling mad. Mad Mad

I am going to make pickled German potato salad for dinner tonight. I have everything I need but one shallot. I planted shallots last fall and they look really good. I know they are not fully grown but are they useable or do I need to go to the store and buy one?
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  CapeCoddess on 5/16/2015, 8:54 am

That's a good question. Camprn is is pretty good with shallots, maybe she'll chime in. If it were me in that position I would probably use a few of the shallot leaves along with some chives, particularly garlic chives. If no chives, I'd use any onion leaves.

CC
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 5816
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/16/2015, 9:31 am

That sounds great CC. I have lots and lots of chives. It seems to me that one shallot is about the size of a small red potato so would you use the same amount of chives or less?
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  CapeCoddess on 5/16/2015, 9:47 am

Hmm...
thinking
maybe taste the leaves and see where they are strengthwise, then you'll know how much.  You can always add some to the salad, taste and add more if needed until it's right.
avatar
CapeCoddess

Posts : 5816
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 61
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  Cajun Cappy on 5/16/2015, 10:33 am

Your onions are fine to use. We break the greens off of or shallots all the time.  The onions though small will work too.  As suggested taste them when diced up to see how strong but Ya prolly do that anyways.
avatar
Cajun Cappy

Male Posts : 597
Join date : 2014-12-06
Age : 59
Location : South Louisiana zone 10

View user profile http://cappyandpegody.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/28/2015, 9:12 am

All my shallots are forming flower stems. Should I remove them before they flower?
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/28/2015, 11:25 am

photo please

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  Cajun Cappy on 5/28/2015, 1:35 pm

The old timers say that shallots reproduce 2 ways the onion bulbs divide and they will make seeds.  They say that if you let those stems flower the onions will not divide.  Most folks pinch them off at the bottom when they see the buds on the end and leave them lay in the garden.  Peggy and I love them they are thicker than the other leaves and lots stronger oniony flavor and great in salads etc.  We snap ours off and eat them. They are delicious.  Every bulb we plant we always get several in a cluster[url=#54791355] back[/url].
avatar
Cajun Cappy

Male Posts : 597
Join date : 2014-12-06
Age : 59
Location : South Louisiana zone 10

View user profile http://cappyandpegody.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  yolos on 5/28/2015, 2:25 pm

@johnp wrote:All my shallots are forming flower stems. Should I remove them before they flower?

This is my third year planting shallots and I have never seen a flower stem on them. thinking  
Must be different varieties ???
avatar
yolos

Female Posts : 3042
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 67
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/28/2015, 2:37 pm

@yolos wrote:
@johnp wrote:All my shallots are forming flower stems. Should I remove them before they flower?

This is my third year planting shallots and I have never seen a flower stem on them. thinking  
Must be different varieties ???
Yeah, my shallots never have flowers. Are you sure they are actual multiplying shallots and not onions? Were you able to get a photo?

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/28/2015, 6:14 pm

They are shallots,guaranteed. I would love to send a picture but my wife confiscated my camera for a class on photographing her art for shows. I cut all flowers off but one and when I get my camera back I will take one.
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/28/2015, 7:16 pm

I got my camera back, all the settings are different. Never knew my camera could do what it did today. Anyway a photo:
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/28/2015, 8:30 pm

huh, thinking those just don't look like shallots I've seen. Here is a photo of my shallots.


____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/29/2015, 8:44 am

OK, I bought them and planted on Oct. 14, 2014. They were purchased from Farm Direct Organic seed company. They are certified organic by the CO. dept.  of Agriculture. They are Organic Sante Shallot. Description is large bulbs with brown rose skin and pink and white flesh. Great flavor, good yields and storage qualities.
Looking down:

avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/29/2015, 9:05 am

OK, I'm getting a better picture of the situation now.  Did the foliage ever die back this past winter time?

Here is my guess.

You planted them 7 months ago and you planted them deeply. Typically shallots a harvested once the bulbs are clearly separated and the foliage declines. in my area this usually takes about 75-90 days give or take.

I think perhaps your shallots have been in the ground too long.

http://www.territorialseed.com/Shallots

Why do onions and shallots bolt?
http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/what-to-do-if-your-onions-and-shallots-bolt-ggid142.html

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/29/2015, 9:54 am

Thanks camprn. I went out and pulled one plant up. It looks to me like they are fine, just need more time to grow. What do they look like to you?

This was one plant I  pulled and this is what it looked like when I cleared the MM off  of it:
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/29/2015, 10:18 am

they look good enough to eat.

So, pull the all up, and as the article said, any that were putting up a flower stalk should be used first. The others, let them rest outside for a day and then put them in a sheltered well ventilated area  to cure for several weeks.

Save the biggest ones for next season planting.

Don't plant them so deep next time. they should just be sort of sitting up on the dirt.


____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  johnp on 5/29/2015, 3:48 pm

Thanks camprn. Before I dug them up just on a hunch I called Farm Direct Seed located in Avondale CO. and just happened to get the owner on the phone. I am probably going to use the wrong word but he said they vernalized last winter sometime which is very common in Colo. when we get mild weather in the winter. He said he is doing the same thing, cutting off the scapes and selling them to chefs by the box full. He does it every year. He said to leave them in the ground until the leaves turn brown and they will continue to develop to full size.
avatar
johnp

Male Posts : 644
Join date : 2013-01-05
Age : 71
Location : high desert, Penrose CO

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  camprn on 5/29/2015, 7:01 pm

@johnp wrote:Thanks camprn. Before I dug them up just on a hunch I called Farm Direct Seed located in Avondale CO. and just happened to get the owner on the phone. I am probably going to use the wrong word but he said they vernalized last winter sometime which is very common in Colo. when we get mild weather in the winter. He said he is doing the same thing, cutting off the scapes and selling them to chefs by the box full. He does it every year. He said to leave them in the ground until the leaves turn brown and they will continue to develop to full size.
nice! That's great info! Dont forget to eat those luscious scapes!

____________________________

41 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost

There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t1306-other-gardening-books



avatar
camprn

Forum Moderator Certified SFG Teacher

Female Posts : 14109
Join date : 2010-03-06
Age : 54
Location : Keene, NH, USA ~ Zone 5a

View user profile http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-week

Back to top Go down

Re: Shallots

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum