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Post  llama momma on 12/22/2011, 12:23 pm



Found these comparisons online: (had trouble moving it to a thread by itself) Anyway here goes:

Animal Manure Comparisons



% N % P % K (Nitrogen Phosphorus Potassium)

Alpaca/Llama 1.7 0.69 0.66

Chicken 1.0 0.8 0.4

Horse 0.7 0.25 0.55

Sheep 0.95 0.35 1.0

Cow 0.6 0.15 0.45

llamas take the prize for nitrogen
chickens win the phosphorous dept
and well looks like llamas win again for potassium

Yet it has been noted in other threads that all of our vegetarian animal friends leave different beneficial nutrients in their manures. We should seek different sources for the greatest benefits to plant growth.
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Post  newstart on 12/22/2011, 1:01 pm

Great information. It will help to have many kinds, I wonder where parakeet fits in there Thats the only pet we have. SO that is added to our compost but I'm sure it would take alot of parakeet droppings to really be worth anything
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Post  RoOsTeR on 12/22/2011, 1:45 pm

I must confess something here. Embarassed

It's my fault this comparison disappeared in the first place pale

llama momma actually posted it in a thread by accident, when she ment to post it as a new topic.

She kindly asked me to move it for her. I pulled a serious bonehead rookie mistake and deleted it Shocked .

Rooster so sorry Embarassed

I think its a great comparison and glad you got it posted again llama.

Let the floggin begin


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Post  llama momma on 12/22/2011, 2:58 pm

"...She kindly asked me to move it for her and.."

Hey thanks a bunch but No Problem Rooster! I appreciate your kindness but I goofed for totally forgetting a simple copy and paste technique in the first place. Major Duh on my part. Knew I'd get around to remembering eventually. If you like you can toss out your other post. You don't have to keep it up there. No flogging either!
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Post  llama momma on 12/22/2011, 3:22 pm

Newstart - I don't know so I made a phone call to the office of a specialist. An avian veterinarian practice in Columbus thats been in practice for 35+ years. Got hold of the vet tech on duty. She said that some pet bird droppings would be ok. A lot of pet bird droppings would be acidic, which would not be great for a lot of vegetables. Maybe someone else has more details but thats a start anyway. Smile
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Post  Lavender Debs on 12/22/2011, 5:24 pm

This is all I know ......dog poop---ick! Send it to the city dump.

Chicken poo, rabbit poo ----good. Compost it and use the straw to mulch the berries and asparagus.

Goat poo----nice gift when your son is willing to shovel it into a bin and bring it home ....praise him to the sky and bake a pie. (A nurse he works with raises goats)

AND, by the way newstart: Joel Salatin, in his new book, "Folks this ain't normal" strongly suggests that you replace your parakeet with a small hen because she is better for the environment and your garden. Having had both birds I'd say that bit of advice is too close to call.....I'm just saying. Parakeets can eat a whole lot of left over greens for such a small bird.

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Post  newstart on 12/22/2011, 5:32 pm

Lavender Debs I would love to have chickens. I love fresh eggs and my kids want them so bad, My dear husband I do not think so much. Also where I live there is a lot of regulations on it. They would have to be at least 100 feet from any houses. Sorry to say it would not work where I am at right now.

I have a pair of parakeets that can eat greens all day. they can eat half a bunch of cilantro a day
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Post  Lavender Debs on 12/22/2011, 7:14 pm

@newstart wrote:...snip.... I have a pair of parakeets that can eat greens all day. they can eat half a bunch of cilantro a day


Good golly, use compostable bedding and spread it on the African violets! They will love you AND add a single red wiggler in spring (when they are still small). AV's thrived on that kind of care.

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Post  HillbillyBob on 1/2/2012, 12:54 pm

Humm did you leave off Rabbit???????????????????? Rabbit is ready to use as soon as it hits the ground no need to compost it,but I use alot in my compost to help break down the other goodies, Hummmm kinda funny put that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rise rabbits just for the garden now,we did eat a lot of rabbit meat until I had my third stroke,can't clean them one handed now,wife doesn't have the heart to kill a bunny or clean it. So I'll just keep feeding them for the mator patch.
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Post  BackyardBirdGardner on 1/2/2012, 1:41 pm

You know....with the parakeet, the newspaper is a compostable "brown," too? That's like two parakeets with one stone right there. Granted, it may not provide more than coffee grounds with filters.
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Post  llama momma on 1/2/2012, 4:47 pm

@HillbillyBob wrote:Humm did you leave off Rabbit???????????????????? Rabbit is ready to use as soon as it hits the ground no need to compost it,but I use alot in my compost to help break down the other goodies, Hummmm kinda funny put that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rise rabbits just for the garden now,we did eat a lot of rabbit meat until I had my third stroke,can't clean them one handed now,wife doesn't have the heart to kill a bunny or clean it. So I'll just keep feeding them for the mator patch.

I didn't leave off wonderful rabbit manure on purpose! I copied the info because I enjoyed sharing llama manure benefits. I hear Bunny poo is great but a comparison was not available in the article I was copying.

Btw llama manure like rabbit manure is also used straight from the animal without burning, Rabbits and Llamas rule! Wink
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Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut on 1/3/2012, 1:08 am

I currently have a guinea pig living with us that is using pine bedding. Has anyone used guinea pig droppings/bedding in compost?
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Post  llama momma on 1/3/2012, 6:05 am

Guinea Pigs are vegetarians. Any vegetarian animal provides wonderful manure for the compost heap. Pine shaving are good too. A variety of compostable ingredients is the ideal situation for the most nutritious results, 5 ingredients, as the ANSFG book says.
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Post  HillbillyBob on 1/3/2012, 10:17 am

yes I also use a lot of pine shavings they are kinda cheap in the area where I'm at. I put down a little lime then shaving under to rabbit cages this helps to keep out any smell,my rabbits are just off the porch.with the shaving it very easy to keep the compost boxes full, leafs bunny poo and shavings,I also keep worms,chickens, and a horse so no problem filling the bins,or my SFG Boxes I 'm using the compost with Perlite added to the mix before filling my boxes.
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Post  donnainzone5 on 1/4/2012, 9:48 am

Is there any difference between cow and steer manure?
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Post  llama momma on 1/4/2012, 12:35 pm

Hillbilly Bob -

According to the ALL New Sqare Foot Gardening book, wood shavings is an item that can be added to your compost, but aim for 10% or less added to your heap. When I researched more so I can tell you Why - the best explanation I found was that wood shavings will deplete your Nitrogen content as it decomposes. Hope this helps!
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Post  plantoid on 1/4/2012, 4:47 pm

@llama momma wrote:Hillbilly Bob -

According to the ALL New Sqare Foot Gardening book, wood shavings is an item that can be added to your compost, but aim for 10% or less added to your heap. When I researched more so I can tell you Why - the best explanation I found was that wood shavings will deplete your Nitrogen content as it decomposes. Hope this helps!

May I add that this warning due to the nitrogen depletion , it should also include animal droppings mixed with their beddings not only of wood shavings but also of wood pulp, ground down denatured wood chip , saw dust & denatured saw dust .

I didn't find anything about the bark products but think they should be a much shorter composting time because of what they contain by way of acids and sugars.

From my reading up on this use of wood matter in composts & manures I have gleaned that it can take up to seven years for man made dried /seasoned wood matter to decay . Use of animal urine on the wood chips etc helps speed the decay period so does the turning and oxygenating of the heap .

That's why some people use their own and dilute it at 20 parts water to one part of their pee.

Fresh green wood chip that's gone from being cut off shrubs /trees and put through a shredder there and then has a much shorted composting time but still look at two or more years for it to succeed.
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Post  plantoid on 1/4/2012, 4:52 pm

@HillbillyBob wrote:yes I also use a lot of pine shavings they are kinda cheap in the area where I'm at. I put down a little lime then shaving under to rabbit cages this helps to keep out any smell,my rabbits are just off the porch.with the shaving it very easy to keep the compost boxes full, leafs bunny poo and shavings,I also keep worms,chickens, and a horse so no problem filling the bins,or my SFG Boxes I 'm using the compost with Perlite added to the mix before filling my boxes.

Beaware that you can get a build up of lime in the limed rabbit muck compost treated bed , using it for many years in a row can affect the plants/crops .
It's like using too much mushroom compost and for the same reasons of chlorosis
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Post  NorthWoodsFever on 1/10/2012, 9:20 pm

@UnderTheBlackWalnut wrote:I currently have a guinea pig living with us that is using pine bedding. Has anyone used guinea pig droppings/bedding in compost?

We have 3 guinea pigs that currently contribute to our compost pile as well. Smile
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Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut on 1/10/2012, 10:12 pm

thanks NWF! Smile

Now when I nag, I mean ask, the kids to clean the cage, I know where to tell them to put the litter! Smile
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Post  NorthWoodsFever on 1/10/2012, 10:23 pm

@UnderTheBlackWalnut wrote: NWF! Smile

Now when I nag, I mean ask, the kids to clean the cage, I know where to tell them to put the litter! Smile

Yeah, I "ask" my kids as well! Laughing Wonder what they would say if I "asked" them to seperate the pellets from the bedding! LOL
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Post  tomperrin on 1/10/2012, 11:19 pm

My understanding from a long time ago is that it takes a lot of nitrogen to break down the sawdust or wood shavings in purchased animal bedding. In our example, the nitrogen comes from the manure. Once the bedding material is broken down, the nitrogen is released back into the compost.

I suspect that this is one of the reasons my horse manure compost is slow to break down this winter. Had my horse manure had more straw or hay in it, it would have been a lot hotter and broken down quicker. There are additives to speed up the process, but most of them cost money, and that defeats the purpose.

The stables by us don't grow oats, hence no straw. They outsource their hay as well. The little stables get their bedding in packaged form and they buy it in a store.

On the plus side, all we have to do turn the pile over on a regular basis, and let nature take its course.
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Post  NorthWoodsFever on 1/11/2012, 6:34 am

We bed with sawdust at work as well, so when I get my manure from there, I go to the manure field and dig up the choicest, oldest that I can get, so it's well broken down by that time.

I made the mistake once to get some that wasn't that old....ugh! It took forever to break down. I learned my lesson!
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