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Post  braim5 on 1/1/2012, 7:49 pm

I am trying to design my garden for the spring. I have come up with the following plans and would appreciate any input. I have a family of 3, but would like to do some canning as well as share some bounty Smile

This is a plan for my 20x20 fenced garden area. The corn and okra are on the north side. The potatoes that are taking up too much space on the east side are actually already planted and covered with a thick layer of straw to see if fall planted potatoes produce any earlier in the spring. If they don't come up, this area may change. The two beds in the middle are 2x8 and will have a cattle panel trellis connecting them so that the tomatoes, cucumbers, and pole beans can climb. I'm not sure it I will get all of this area converted to SFG by spring, but want to get the middle beds built at least. They will be constructed from cinderblocks with the holes used for carrots, onions and flowers.



This is a 4x4 area that I planted this fall. I have a hoop house over this bed currently. I haven't completely committed to this design as I think I may want to keep my herbs in pots. The herbs in the 2nd row are oregano, basil, cilantro, and thyme. I also think I may want to plan a more dedicated area to strawberries. I do have a trellis for the north side of this bed.



This is a cinderblock bed that I also planted this fall. It also has a short hoop house over it, but I've only put row cover over it so far. The 2x2 area that has "worms" is actually 2 cinder blocks high. I had planned to try potatoes in this area this fall, but my seed potatoes never sprouted. I am going to experiment with an outdoor winter worm bin in this area now. I have a portable 4 shelf greenhouse that is standing over this area. I am going to spread some pumpkin, then either bedding from the FFA livestock barn containing cattle manure or some of the pre-finished compost from my pile to try to generate heat through the winter. I'm hoping that between the greenhouse, compost, and a heavy layer of straw, it will maintain a warm enough temp to keep my African nightcrawlers alive through the winter. This is just an experiment will a small amount of worms. The larger majority of these tropical worms are going to be safe and warm in their bins in the house.

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Post  newstart on 1/2/2012, 10:18 am

wow great plans. Can you come over and help me lol
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Post  quiltbea on 1/2/2012, 11:22 am

Isn't it fun to get the plans started. If you're like me, those will change a couple of times before the final sowing. You'll have learned from your first year and change things a little next year and so on. Let the games begin.

Welcome to a great forum where help is always available and where we share the good and the bad to help our fellow gardeners.
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Post  Red-Leg on 1/5/2012, 9:48 pm

braim - What software are you using to generate those plans?

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Re: Planning for 2012

Post  braim5 on 1/5/2012, 10:02 pm

Grow Veg.com They have a 30 day free trial.
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Post  Red-Leg on 1/7/2012, 10:00 am

Thanks!
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Post  HunkieDorie23 on 1/16/2012, 8:26 pm

I really like seeing what other people are doing or planning. It is so helpful. I have a question about the worms. I know you can order worms but what if I just got worms from the bait shop? I know they aren't the red worms most people use but wouldn't they do the job? One they are huge and I think if I stuck them in my compost pile they would really make it useful quicker and I wouldn't have to worry about shipping worms.
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Post  camprn on 1/16/2012, 8:30 pm

I believe the worms at the bait shop are red worms.
If you are doing and outside compost pile and you put it on the ground, the native earthworms will come to it.

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Post  GWN on 1/16/2012, 9:02 pm

Its a very cold night here, and I wonder how cold the ground is, for the worms.
I am trying, against all advise, to overwinter artichokes. I have them covered with a heavy layer of straw, then a cattle panel bent over that to make a tent, then a tarp over that. It is supposed to be -20 tonite, I feel like I should be putting another blanket or something over the artichokes.
I am also growing artichoke seeds, in case this plan does not work. I will germinate them and then leave them out in the cold to attempt to get them to flower. (to trick them into thinking it is the second year)
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Post  Lavender Debs on 1/17/2012, 8:59 am

GWN I got my encouragement for overwinter artichokes from a garden in Victoria BC who were able to overwinter theirs MOST years. All I had was shredded paper from the office. Thought I lost them but they came up again in Spring.....before the slugs killed them (really bad year for slugs last year, I gotta get me some ducks or more snakes.....I like ducks but the neighbors never complain about snakes). There is hope!
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Post  GWN on 1/17/2012, 10:10 am

thanks deb
I think I am much colder than victoria, or you for that matter. It is currently -17 here, which I believe is about 1 degree farenheit.
HOWEVER I do have more stuff on my artichokes, so hopefully they will survive. How cold is iththere?
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Post  Lavender Debs on 1/17/2012, 10:21 am

At the moment it is 33 degrees F (.5 C) and snowing big wet flakes. But you are right, 1.5*F would have been too TOO cold for overwintered artichokes.

Have you ever had a chance to read Coleman’s Organic Gardening? He puts a floating row cover just above his winter crop (no mention of artichokes but what can it hurt?) inside of his protective cover. If you can access Amazon.com you can find his book and see his system from the look inside this book section. You will not be able to read the whole book but you can get the idea.


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Post  janezee on 1/17/2012, 6:42 pm

"I like ducks but the neighbors never complain about snakes"
rofl rofl rofl


Love the subtle threat in that one!!
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Post  Lavender Debs on 1/18/2012, 7:58 am

Ha!, JaneZ, I am passive-aggressive, but all I meant was that the little black snakes that come hide in the garden, who never bite (or bark or quack), who send me three feet into the air when I am lost in my thoughts while weeding and I see them slither away out of the corner of my vision (I am not afraid of snakes or frogs but for some unreasonable reason I jump when they go from invisible in their well cloaked stillness to in-my-face movement). For the most part the neighbors do not complain about rats either.....in fact they feed the rats, they say they are feeding the birds but rats get most of the cheep stuff the birds toss away. Rats do frighten me, another totally unreasonable fear since I've never been hurt by one.

Anyway, you gave me my morning laugh.
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Post  walshevak on 1/18/2012, 8:48 am

Not that I would be able to live with one, but a big black snake or two would take care of the rats. Smile

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Post  GWN on 1/18/2012, 10:57 am

I have read both of colmans books and I DO have a floating row cover over my artichokes.
I have many layers of straw and then a bent over cattle panel
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Post  GWN on 1/18/2012, 11:07 am


So the artichokes are beneath this tarp, which is resting on metal hoops made from cattle panels
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Post  Lavender Debs on 1/18/2012, 11:09 am

Way kewl GWN! Teach me...errr, I mean, take pics and show me how that works for you this spring. I am hoping to try this for next winter-fall. Thanks for mentioning this! I’m not very good at being unemployed, never really felt an urgent need to grow through the winter so that I can feed my family (it is why I knew the book was on Amazon). Winter gardening has always been a happy accident…..this year feels different.
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Post  GWN on 1/18/2012, 11:23 am

well this is what I was doing this time last year. We were in a rental house which had undercounter lights, and so I placed my seedlings on these metal shelves and when I had too many of them, I would do shifts, in that half of them I would leave under the lights for the day and the other half during the night
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