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Post  DIRTROOKIE on 1/21/2012, 6:52 pm

I had been reading my SFG book but I have not found any information on growing corn. Is there something i don't know? I am brand new to this stuff.
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Post  GWN on 1/21/2012, 6:56 pm

in the back of the book there is a whole section on each vegetable, alphabetically.
Unfortunately I have the kindle version so do not have page numbers.
But it is quite thorough
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Post  DIRTROOKIE on 1/21/2012, 6:58 pm

Thanks, I will check it out.
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Re: Corn?

Post  Furbalsmom on 1/21/2012, 7:18 pm

dirtrookie

Here is one of several threads regarding growing corn in a SFG. Check out the search feature using "corn" for more threads.



CORN IN A SFG



ps, I have not grown corn in a SFG because corn does not grow well here on the Coast, we are too cool for this warm weather crop.
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Post  Chopper on 1/21/2012, 9:46 pm

I did grow corn, zucchini and green and yellow beans - climbers, not bush, as a kind of three sisters in a 4X4 food box. I was pretty happy with the result. Corn grows just fine in its 6 inches (mines was more like 3.5 inches!) of MM.

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Post  squaredeal on 1/22/2012, 4:46 pm

If I can put in more boxes in my community site, then one will be devoted to corn. Otherwise I will skip it this year. And I will plant the whole box at once, and hopefully, avoid late summer droughts that my area is prone to get.
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Post  llama momma on 1/22/2012, 4:57 pm

If you are interested this is a pic of my first attempt at peaches and cream corn from last year. I opened the chicken wire fence to take the picture. Fencing worked perfectly against my raccoons and deer, didn't lose one ear. I can't grow it this year the farmer next to me will be planting about 1,000 acres of plain ol starchy cow corn which will cross pollinate and wreck my sweet corn, have to wait till next year, when he alternates with soybean.

http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/gallery/Showcase-of-Gardens/Corn-pic_2646.htm
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Post  stripesmom on 1/22/2012, 5:21 pm

Llama momma, how many stalks of corn per square did you plant and what was your yield? It looked really good!
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Post  squaredeal on 1/22/2012, 5:28 pm

If you are interested this is a pic of my first attempt at peaches and cream corn from last year.

How did it yield? How did it taste? I grew primarily Bi-licious hybrid by Burpee, and Early and Often by Burpee. The latter didn't make it due to the dought, and the former was only ok. I'm trying to decide with to continue with these, or try yet another type.
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Post  llama momma on 1/22/2012, 5:50 pm

Peaches and cream is a small variety, stalks about 6-7 feet tall, so I put 4 seeds per square. Technically that was 64 stalks, I'd say 59 stalks came up. Yield - I am hoping that due to damage of being blown over 3 times flat - heavy winds - (my fault -didn't follow Mel's direction to prevent it) my yield was delicious but around forty fabulous delicious ears. But hey for 2 people under my roof we were getting sick of eating so much corn. Now I know how to keep them from being blown over from Mel's directions in the book, and I read somewhere else on the forum that the planting could have been staggared a bit to enjoy a longer harvest. But I have to say I was so excited watching the box of corn mature and do its glorious thing! Somewhere else I have pics of the corn itself - will try to find it again and post.
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Post  Lindacol on 1/22/2012, 7:10 pm

llama momma wrote:If you are interested this is a pic of my first attempt at peaches and cream corn from last year. I opened the chicken wire fence to take the picture. Fencing worked perfectly against my raccoons and deer, didn't lose one ear. I can't grow it this year the farmer next to me will be planting about 1,000 acres of plain ol starchy cow corn which will cross pollinate and wreck my sweet corn, have to wait till next year, when he alternates with soybean.

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I thought that cross pollination would not affect your corn harvest but would you would not want to save seed for the future because the next generation would be hybred. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. I thought we just recently had a similiar discussion on squash.
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Post  llama momma on 1/22/2012, 7:24 pm

And I swear I read somewhere to keep sweet corn away from field corn by like 1500 feet or something like that. Whew, Must admit it is really hard to say anything and always back it up with documented proof. I just know I read it somewhere so I'm not taking any chances this year.
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Post  Lindacol on 1/22/2012, 7:44 pm

llama momma wrote:And I swear I read somewhere to keep sweet corn away from field corn by like 1500 feet or something like that. Whew, Must admit it is really hard to say anything and always back it up with documented proof. I just know I read it somewhere so I'm not taking any chances this year.



It looks like you are right. I went searching and here are some links:
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/ext/HO-98.pdf
http://www.seedforsecurity.com/article.php?articleid=11
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/hil-50.html

I learned something new!
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Post  llama momma on 1/22/2012, 7:55 pm

Thanks for digging Lindacol.
My aging brain still sorta works afterall
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Post  Furbalsmom on 1/22/2012, 7:59 pm

I also checked the Oregon State Extension Service and they confirm, separating varieties is not just for seed saving, but also to retain the sweet or super sweet flavor of fresh corn.

Sweet Taste of Sunshine



Another bit of information is how to grow Baby Corn, like is frequently used in Asian cooking

BABY EARS IN YOUR CORNPATCH
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Post  llama momma on 1/22/2012, 10:26 pm

Found a picture of some corn harvested from my post above and it was very sweet. Fun to watch it grow, great tasting too. I will grow this again.
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Post  sfg4uKim on 1/22/2012, 10:37 pm

You are SOOO making me hungry for corn. We had a crappy corn season this year. The stuff in the stores looked horrible and was overpriced.

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Post  stripesmom on 1/23/2012, 9:20 am

Your corn looked wonderful Llama mamma, thank you for your reply.

Last year, corn was $6 a dozen here. I about fainted. I knew the price would drop, but it never did. Then after the drought in the summer, there was no more corn. This year, I think I'll plant a couple of boxers and freeze some up.
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Post  Furbalsmom on 1/23/2012, 2:23 pm

stripesmom or anyone else, have you successfully frozen corn before? The results of the two attempts I made were not very good. Sad Because of these two failures, I have not tried again for several years.

I would like to freeze the corn on the cob. Perhaps there is a trick to freezing corn that I don't know.
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Post  stripesmom on 1/23/2012, 3:04 pm

Furbalsmom, I have only successfully frozen corn that has been cut off the cob. My husband and I make a day of it. We par boil the corn, then shock it in ice water. I use a big kettle out on the side burner of the grill and a clean cooler for the ice water. Then we cut it off the cob and freeze in bags. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but we enjoy it. We usually do 8 dozen ears this way and it lasts us a good year.

Last year, I did try a new (to me) technique with corn on the cob. You don't do any thing to it, you just leave it as is with the leaves and every thing, stick it in a paper bag and freeze it that way. So far, we've not tried this, but it takes up a lot of room, so we won't do it again. To use it, your suppose to microwave (straight from the freezer) for 4 min for two ears then shuck it under running water.

When we do try it, I'll try to send you a pm to let you know how it turns out.
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Post  Furbalsmom on 1/23/2012, 3:54 pm

Thanks, stripesmom

I guess I really should research freezing on the cob, those commercial companies do it, but I find their corn to be squishy, not crisp.
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Post  Lindacol on 1/23/2012, 4:05 pm

Furbalsmom wrote:Thanks, stripesmom

I guess I really should research freezing on the cob, those commercial companies do it, but I find their corn to be squishy, not crisp.

I found this:

http://www.pickyourown.org/freezingcornonthecob.htm



Think I will try it this year.
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Post  obrdrln on 1/25/2012, 9:02 am

I had a fellow at a u-pick farm in Puyallup, WA tell me that to successfully freeze corn on the cob, peel back husks, remove silk, rinse in water, replace husks, use a twist tie to hold the husks around the cob, plop into a cotton pillowcase and put into the freezer. To microwave the corn, remove the twist tie and follow your micros cooking directions.

This corn tastes like fresh picked!!

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Post  Furbalsmom on 1/25/2012, 4:58 pm

Thanks Lindacol and obrdrln for the freezing options!



obrdrin, please post an introduction in our Welcome Mat. Would love the chance to welcome you properly Smile without hi-jacking the corn thread.
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Post  littlejo on 1/25/2012, 6:30 pm

Furbalsmom wrote:stripesmom or anyone else, have you successfully frozen corn before? The results of the two attempts I made were not very good. Sad Because of these two failures, I have not tried again for several years.

I would like to freeze the corn on the cob. Perhaps there is a trick to freezing corn that I don't know.

Many yrs. ago I froze corn on the cob, following the 'guidelines, blanching, ice, etc' When we went to cook and eat the first batch, it was spoiled.

I asked around as to what to do. Pick the corn, husk the corn, if it needs washing from worms, etc, wash and cook those ears. Do not wash ears that are pretty, just put in freezer bags and freeze immediately. If you wash them then freeze, the cob will spoil before it gets frozen. I rinse off before I cook, cook no more than 10 minutes, tastes like it just came from the garden!
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