Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.


[/td][/tr][/table]
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» What do you know about making sauerkraut?
by RoOsTeR Today at 9:02 am

» help with raised beds! how much can I grow in a 4' x 4' raised bed?
by plantoid Today at 8:01 am

» Can anyone identify what type of watermelon this is at this age??
by sanderson Today at 2:55 am

» Today's Harvest
by sanderson Today at 2:08 am

» N & C Midwest; July 2017 !
by CitizenKate Yesterday at 10:31 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by trolleydriver Yesterday at 9:56 pm

» New England July 2017
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 9:38 pm

» Eggplant Blossom End Rot?
by Fiz Yesterday at 6:11 pm

» Your favorite watermelon and pumpkin
by AlwaysHotinFL Yesterday at 1:23 pm

» What I've learned this year
by countrynaturals Yesterday at 10:29 am

» Growing Romanesco Broccoli
by plantoid Yesterday at 7:20 am

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing in JULY 2017?
by sanderson Yesterday at 2:07 am

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by Scorpio Rising 7/25/2017, 8:18 pm

» TrolleyDriver's Compost Thermometer
by sanderson 7/25/2017, 4:18 pm

» Tornado Cake
by sanderson 7/25/2017, 4:04 pm

» Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
by CapeCoddess 7/25/2017, 10:19 am

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by trolleydriver 7/25/2017, 8:21 am

» Turan in the Western Mountains
by sanderson 7/25/2017, 1:07 am

» Friday Rookie Topic XII: Cucumbers
by Scorpio Rising 7/24/2017, 8:40 pm

» More on garlic scapes
by greatgranny 7/24/2017, 7:17 pm

» Third Year SFG in Canada
by SwampTroll 7/24/2017, 2:47 pm

» My early garden
by sanderson 7/24/2017, 3:15 am

» Garden Footwear
by sanderson 7/24/2017, 3:14 am

» Square footage
by sanderson 7/24/2017, 3:03 am

» Healthy Meals
by RoOsTeR 7/23/2017, 10:19 pm

» HELP! Sweet Potato Plant!
by countrynaturals 7/23/2017, 11:26 am

» 2017: First full year of SFGing in ND
by Robbomb116 7/22/2017, 9:10 pm

» 2017 SFG in Brooks, Ga
by sanderson 7/22/2017, 7:38 pm

» Green Caterpillars
by sanderson 7/22/2017, 2:22 pm

» Some of our Gluten-free Cajun Recipes
by sanderson 7/22/2017, 1:50 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

Will cedar last?

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Will cedar last?

Post  psalm91jim on 1/25/2012, 10:10 am

I am going to start a "raised garden" but I am not sure that using wood versus a composite or PVC is a good alternative to framing the box. Is there any problem with rot, being that it is in constant contact with moisture and soil? Also, is the weed mat sufficient to block nematodes?
avatar
psalm91jim

Male Posts : 1
Join date : 2012-01-25
Age : 68
Location : Pensacola Florida

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Will cedar last?

Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut on 1/25/2012, 12:01 pm

glad you\'re here psalm91jim! happy hi

I'm a relative newbie and I'm sure our hosts will be along shortly to welcome you properly! The main purpose of the forum is to discuss Square Foot Gardening which is the method as described in Mel Bartholomew's book All New Square Foot Gardening. We do have areas where we discuss other gardening methods, but the forum is mainly dedicated to SFG. If you haven't yet read the book, you will definitely want to get a copy from your library, order it online, or download it to your eReader because everyone who follows the book says it's the easiest, best way to get good eats from very little effort and space! Smile

That said, there are a couple of threads on the forum currently that address materials for boxes:
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t9914-another-newbie-in-tampa-florida
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t9865p15-rasied-garden-bordering-question#95938

In short, there are many members who opt for untreated pine or cedar and just accept that the cost of replacing boxes after a several years is acceptable to them (since after the initial expense of Mel's Mix, the cost to SFG is extremely minimal). There are some members who go with a stone, block, or cinderblock type of frame. There are others who use a plastic "wood" product or treated wood.

We have several members in Florida and the deep south and I'm sure they can chime in on what the "life expectancy" of their boxes has been in those climates.

When you get ready to fill your boxes, be sure to take a look at this thread as it will help you avoid a lot of the mistakes many of us made in the beginning:
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t7452-mel-s-mix-how-strong-is-your-backbone

I'm sorry I can't give any information on the nematodes question but am hoping one of our more experienced members will be able to help.

Again, welcome! Smile
avatar
UnderTheBlackWalnut

Female Posts : 559
Join date : 2011-04-18
Age : 50
Location : Springfield (central), IL, on the line between 5b and 6a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Will cedar last?

Post  martha on 1/25/2012, 12:52 pm

Psalm91Jim!




Nice post, Walnut!

I found the nematode question interesting. In my initial on-line search, it seems that the cardboard might be more effective than a weed mat. (Or cardboard over a weed-mat!) The info I found talks about letting the ground go fallow for a year or two, which will dramatically decrease the nematode population. If you have the cardboard barrier, as far as the nematodes are concerned, the dirt they are living in is fallow.

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7489.html

Your weather is so different from mine - I would guess that your cardboard would decompose more quickly. But there are lots of Florida and other southern folks here, that will certainly be chiming in!

My first boxes are made of pine 1X's, and they are starting their 4th year of service. Some of them are warped, but they are all completely serviceable. I don't have a guess whose weather would be harder on them - yours or mine! Snow and ice, or unrelenting heat and humidity? My newer boxes are cedar, and I certainly expect them to last longer than pine, but again, your weather...my weather....

Certainly, for long term beauty, I would not use pine, nor would I for truly long term use. The first year, I didn't want to put too much money into this approach, because what if it didn't work as well and as easily as the book made it seem?

SPOILER ALERT!!!!


It does and it is!
avatar
martha

Female Posts : 2188
Join date : 2010-03-03
Age : 60
Location : Acton, Massachusetts Zone 5b/6a

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Cedar will last

Post  tomperrin on 1/25/2012, 1:33 pm

Cedar and locust both resist rot. They are used for fence posts, and the half life is probably around 10 years in the ground. My guess is that Tamarack (American Larch) would resist rot as well, but nobody cuts it.
avatar
tomperrin

Male Posts : 350
Join date : 2011-03-20
Age : 75
Location : Burlington, NJ Zone 7a (2012 version), in the hollow, surrounded by trees.

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Will cedar last?

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum