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I am still in Zone 5a

Post  camprn on 1/25/2012, 9:12 pm

USDA just released updated Hardiness Zone Map 2012



but junk science has a few things to say about it.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  martha on 1/25/2012, 9:30 pm

I have officially been listed as 6a, but I am leaving it at 5b/6a, for my own training, mostly. It's way too easy for me to get ahead of myself, which is fine for things like peas, that get direct sown and staggered. Putting out seedlings...not so much.

Junk Science is a very interesting site -thanks for expanding my horizons.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  sfg4uKim on 1/25/2012, 10:06 pm

I've been changed from 7a to 7b.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  ashort on 1/25/2012, 10:41 pm

Woot, I have been promoted from the border with 7b to full in 8a.... I feel like I won the lottery!

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  peanut0915 on 1/26/2012, 12:31 am

Wow, I got upgraded to 7a? I think I will plan for the 6's just in case. Call me a skeptic.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  walshevak on 1/26/2012, 6:31 am

Yep, I'm solid 8A instead of just on the edge. But then my extension office has alway had me in 8A. Just the zip code searchers put me in 7B

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  braim5 on 1/26/2012, 7:31 am

WOOHOO! I went from 6b to 7a... I've been contemplating a fig tree, but leary of having to bring inside for winter. This just may be the factor that convinces me to try a permanent planting. I have a friend with 4 trees/bushes that I have watched flourish for 9 years. I'm excited now! I'm gonna go to Gurneys this weekend and capitalize on their sale! Very Happy

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Tough to read

Post  CaptainKidney on 1/26/2012, 8:28 am

It is difficult to tell, but they moved the southern half of Pinellas County (just west of Tampa) to zone 10A. I knew it was hotter than.......well, it's hot in the summer.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  ModernDayBetty on 1/26/2012, 9:39 am

I love it! Mostly because of the zip code finder. Some people questioned that I was really in zone 7 in WA but now I can say with absolute certainty that I am 7a. Whoot. :o)

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  CindiLou on 1/26/2012, 3:47 pm

Well, I always went by zone 5b with protected 6a...seems I am still there..so no changes for me...

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  CindiLou on 1/26/2012, 4:29 pm

Well jeepers..after looking closer, the center of my county is a micro-climate! Back to 5a I go grrrrr

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  quiltbea on 1/26/2012, 5:23 pm

I moved from 5a to 5b so that means my idea of starting my seeds sooner than I used to should work. Nonetheless, I'll keep the plastic and row covers handy.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  GWN on 1/26/2012, 10:17 pm

I am still a 5A, I guess Canada did not change lots o
It seems to have been left out in the cold, at the top of the map.
At least I have a plan rahrah

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  RJARPCGP on 4/28/2014, 6:27 pm

Downtown Springfield is probably 5b now.....

It rarely gets lower than -15 F during the winter.

Folks would easily debate away, because I have a bunch of places around me that's likely 4a and 3b!

Even 2014 didn't have a night temp that I can confirm being lower than about -10 F.

(These are readings across from the Springfield town hall)

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  southern gardener on 4/28/2014, 11:25 pm

10A for us...They usually say 9 or 10 either way, we have awesome weather Smile

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  cpl100 on 5/14/2014, 6:27 pm

By zipcode I am 6a.  But when I look at the map, I am quite close to 6b.  What is the difference between a and b in a zone, anyway?  Never could figure that out!  Thanks!

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  boffer on 5/14/2014, 6:43 pm

Zones denote the average winter time lows.  I believe the difference between one zone and the next is 10° and 5° between a and b.  

Then it gets complicated by micro-climates caused by elevation, bodies of water, and man-made structures.  Sometimes a person's front yard can be in one zone, and their backyard is in another zone.

The good news is that zones are irrelevant for most veggie gardening that is done in non-winter months.  Zones become relevant for veggie plants that are perennials like asparagus and artichokes.

Whether you're in 6a or 6b isn't going to make much difference.  The numbers are averages, so 6b could certainly get colder than 6a in some years.

Here's a numerical chart
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  cpl100 on 5/14/2014, 7:00 pm

So this is basically for perennial plants (of all kinds) because it concerns how cold it gets in the winter.  And basically, that temperature is all it reflects.  Am I correct?  I am interested in flowers and shrubs as well as vegetables so this is of interest to me. 

Thank you for your reply.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  boffer on 5/14/2014, 7:13 pm

Zones are a more valuable tool for ornamental/landscaping plants. Especially if you pay, for example, $100 or more for a certain Japanese Maple seedling. You want to know ahead of time what winter temperatures it will survive so that you don't lose your investment.

On the other hand, trying to push the winter temperature limits of an artichoke plant isn't a big deal if it cost a couple dollars.

It's not a precise science, and some of the practical applications are by trial and error. For instance, a shrub planted next to a house might be somewhat protected and will survive colder winters than it is typically rated for. But plant the same shrub on a hill top that is subject to strong winds, and it might not survive temperatures that it is rated for.

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asparagus in Hawaii

Post  kauairosina on 5/14/2014, 7:18 pm

My asparagus supplier did not want to ship them to me based on zones.  We have asparagus thrive here and the crowns are doing splendidly.  She is keeping my emails insisting that she send them because she thinks I'm going to ask for my money back.

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Re: I am still in Zone 5a

Post  boffer on 5/14/2014, 7:24 pm

thinking  I don't get it:

Asparagus grows in USDA hardiness zones 2 to 11, though it prefers a temperate climate. Gardeners in warm climates should choose varieties specially bred for their area because the temperature affects asparagus growth patterns.

Does she think it's too warm for the variety you purchased?

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We will certainly see the results

Post  kauairosina on 5/14/2014, 10:45 pm

The new ferns are beauties.  We do not plan to pick any this first year to give them their best shot.

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