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Post  RoOsTeR on 10/16/2011, 11:00 am

I know this is an old thread, but very interesting nonetheless. Would be really interested in updates from anyone who went this route.

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Post  ishootaction on 10/17/2011, 1:07 am

Me too. I am looking at doing this this week. I have 2000 worms comming on Thursday. Please tell me this works.
Thanks any pictures would be great.
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Re: Wiggler Hilton

Post  Red-Leg on 12/20/2011, 10:42 pm

I'll bump this to the top again in the hopes of seeing how everyone is doing with their homemade worm condos.

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Post  RoOsTeR on 12/20/2011, 10:54 pm

Red leg, here is a great vid just posted today by staf74.
http://squarefoot.creatingforum.com/t9506-worm-poop-day-video#90402

There are some awesome worm threads on here if you search around. Josh has several that are pretty informative.

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Post  1airdoc on 2/29/2012, 3:35 pm

I'm very interested in building a worm farm using chocksaw's design, but since his farm failed in August, I haven't heard any followup. Has anyone else used this design with success?
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Post  claudiamedic on 5/7/2012, 7:59 pm

Bump.

Great thread. What are people using successfully? thinking
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Post  SwampCatNana on 5/10/2012, 4:14 pm

This may have already been answered but I didn't read beyond page 1.
Do oyou add the same kind of mixture to the level 3 bin that you added to level 2?
What do you do with the level 2 bin once all the worms have migrated to level 3? Also, what happens when you add a level 4? Will the larger holes in level 3 bin be a problem?
Thanks for you help. thanks
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Worm Farm

Post  memart1 on 5/17/2012, 10:40 pm

I like the ease of making this worm farm, but I have some questions.
1. -- Are there holes in the lid I see on tier 3?
2. -- Do you have to add any water at any time, or is it formed strictly by the composting procedure.
3. -- Can pine needles be used in the compost?
4. -- Do you take bin #2 out when the worms seem to mostly be in bin #3, and then move #3 to the #2 position, empty #2 and place it in the #3 position, or is #3 always on top?
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Post  GWN on 5/17/2012, 10:52 pm

thanks for the bump, I hope to learn something here.
I started with one layer and it seemed to fill up, I added another layer, and then put the lower layer on top and left the lid open to the light, and all the worms etc moved down to the lower level.
I am sure I am missing the hilton point here, because I have 2 layers that i am using for potting plants.

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Post  Coelli on 6/23/2012, 12:06 pm

Bump!

I bought bins yesterday for our worm farm (only 2 bins though - I should probably pick up the third). We made worm towers in the SFG beds but I don't think they're working out very well, so I'm going to move the worms out of the towers and into a worm farm setup. Assuming any are still alive, that is. I'm a little worried about what I'll find down there when it's time to move them.

Anyway, I have a converted trash can/compost bin that's full of half-finished compost, which is mostly coffee grounds (about 30%?), kitchen scraps & eggshells, the occasional garden trimmings, and my guinea pig's used paper-based bedding (the other 50%). Do you think there's any reason I couldn't just start with that as the bedding and let the worms do the rest? Is the ratio of coffee grounds going to be too high? I use them as my greens since we don't have much in the way of landscaping (no trees, no lawn).
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Re: Wiggler Hilton

Post  Pepper on 6/23/2012, 5:30 pm

opps did not see this before my last post to you Coelli
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Post  MrGreenJeans on 7/6/2012, 11:24 am

Its been a few years but i took a crack at worm bins a while back. I got some red wigglers from a feed store. I wanted to create my own castings and decided to raise my own worms in bins for composting.

I tried two different types of worm bins, plastic and wooden. I think i would recommend staying away from plastic, and keep them outside in a very shady spot or in a garage in the winter. Summer garage temps can get high but i think a wooden box can be a little more insulated from that heat.

Plastic bins are going to lead to lots of trapped moisture which will ultimately be bad. i think if you could replicate the worm hilton with wooden construction you'd have a longer run. My wooden bin started as 2 x 10 foot 1x10s ripped into 4x4.5', and 2x10" pieces with hinged top. small holes for air and drainage. The wooden box didnt get waterlogged and i easily could sift out castings after a few months. for a while i could easily fill a few 2 gallon buckets of casting. Get 1/4" hardware cloth (wire mesh), so 1x2 cut into 2' sections, and make a sift to screen out the casting from the worms and left overs etc..

I started with indoor rubbermaids and got the little flies and red mite looking things, and the inside could get very wet, so i decided to try something else when i created the wooden box. Although it wasnt as elaborate as a stacked unit looks, it worked pretty well for a while. I kept it in my back yard as a worm bin until the lid split and then it became a nice container for few tomatoes for few years and it has even made its way to our new house! last summer while moving it, the bottom actually fell out, but i would say it lasted almost 5-6 year. I still have it and it has a few feral potatoes and some brussel sprouts growing in it. I added a fence around it to keep my dogs from eating my tomatoes when it first became a tomato bin... they seem to like brussel sprouts Smile

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My Worm Factory is invaded again.

Post  Cincinnati on 7/8/2012, 10:56 pm

I started a worm factory composting system about a month or so ago. I started with 1000 worms and built the bed per the instructions. I generally fed them a veggie smoothie every other day. I started this inside, but fruit flies forced me to move it outside. Within a few weeks, I noticed maggots taking over. It got so bad by the time I got to tray no 3, I had to dump each tray and separate the worms and remove the maggots. They dried out in the sun and so I blended the dead fly larvae with the worm compost and thought the worms would eat them. I lost a lot of the worms, but I restarted the colony inside again. This time almost no fruit flies. I didn't really want a worm composting operation inside my house so I moved it back outside. Once again the maggots are taking over. It took three or four hours to remove the maggots the first time. I don't really enjoy this.

What am I doing wrong? How do I correct this?

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Post  plantoid on 7/9/2012, 3:16 am

You are not keeping the flies out or you are introducing material that already has fly eggs on it.

You can cover the Hilton with flyscreen material & use elastic to keep it in place and " fly tight "

You need to process the veg waste straight away you take it off the food and keep it fly proof covered till use .

I found that fruit flies on citrus fruit skins and peel etc. seemed to be the main offender , attracted due to the sweetness in the waste . In mine they didn't go much for the green veg waste.
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Post  Cincinnati on 7/9/2012, 8:49 am

plantoid wrote:You are not keeping the flies out or you are introducing material that already has fly eggs on it.

You can cover the Hilton with flyscreen material & use elastic to keep it in place and " fly tight "

You need to process the veg waste straight away you take it off the food and keep it fly proof covered till use .

I found that fruit flies on citrus fruit skins and peel etc. seemed to be the main offender , attracted due to the sweetness in the waste . In mine they didn't go much for the green veg waste.

Wow. Such a simple solution, covering the top with screen. The Worm Factory top sits far enough above the top tray that flies can easily get in.

I'm assuming the maggots are from flies getting into it after it was moved outside. I don't think these big things are fruit fly maggots.

What do I do about it now? I am thinking about moving it back inside but not until I get rid of the maggots. I don't want hundreds of flies hatching out inside the house.

Last time I added lime and Diatomaceous Earth as I read this would kill the maggots and not harm the worms. But it did not work.

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Post  Kelejan on 8/15/2012, 5:40 pm

Today I made my Wiggler Hilton for the worms I am collecting from my compost tumbler, 200 + so far.
So far I have made the two-tier version but I have a third one to put holes in but I have had enough work today, I will finish it when I need it.
I have not done the spigot as I think I can manage without it as I probably will not need anything more than three stories and there is only me to provide food during the winter.
As I did not have a 3/8 drill bit, I have used a 1/4. Do you think my worms will be able to slide through? If they cannot then I will have to get the 3/8 next time I go to the stores. Also do you think the 1/4 will supply enough ventilation? Perhap the worms can adapt within a certain range.
Now I will put down some bedding for them and introduce them to their new, spacious home.
Each section measures approx 21"x14" by 8 1/2" deep and cost $7 each plus 12 1/2 HST.
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Post  Boz on 8/15/2012, 6:35 pm

I used an 1/8 inch bit for ventilation and drainage holes. I do not use a spigot.

Here is a video on setting up a worm farm..
I get coffee grounds and vegetable scrapes from my neighbors.

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Post  llama momma on 8/16/2012, 1:39 pm

I have two 18gal plastic bins with lids and a good 12 square inches or more of ventilation holes around the sides and the lid. This has kept things nice and dry and zero leachate or wetness problems in the bottom. After 5 months there was nothing to drain off. I keep a spray bottle nearby and keep things lightly moist. When it is kept this dry there are no flies. I keep a good 10 inches of dry bedding on top of the moistened bedding they live in. Hope this helps someone!
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Post  Cincinnati on 8/16/2012, 5:41 pm

llama momma wrote:... I keep a spray bottle nearby and keep things lightly moist. When it is kept this dry there are no flies. I keep a good 10 inches of dry bedding on top of the moistened bedding they live in. Hope this helps someone!


Llama Momma,

Thanks, I will try that next. My bedding is thoroughly wet from the feedings of veggie-fruit smoothies I pour over the top of the "Worm Hotel". It stays quite wet - my guess is from the maggots.

How do you "spray the top" but maintain 10" of dry bedding over the moistened bedding they live in? When you add food to the top, don't they move into that top layer until it is consumed?


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Post  Boz on 8/16/2012, 8:26 pm

In addition to lots of bedding I freeze all my feedstock for at least three days before feeding
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Post  Cincinnati on 8/16/2012, 10:11 pm

Boz wrote:In addition to lots of bedding I freeze all my feedstock for at least three days before feeding

This is why I enjoy participating in this forum. Another brilliant idea!

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Post  llama momma on 8/16/2012, 10:40 pm

Cincinnati wrote:
llama momma wrote:... I keep a spray bottle nearby and keep things lightly moist. When it is kept this dry there are no flies. I keep a good 10 inches of dry bedding on top of the moistened bedding they live in. Hope this helps someone!


Llama Momma,

Thanks, I will try that next. My bedding is thoroughly wet from the feedings of veggie-fruit smoothies I pour over the top of the "Worm Hotel". It stays quite wet - my guess is from the maggots.

How do you "spray the top" but maintain 10" of dry bedding over the moistened bedding they live in? When you add food to the top, don't they move into that top layer until it is consumed?

I never had maggots. I have a specific layer of lightly moistened bedding at the very bottom where the worms basically stay. The pre frozen chunks of food is wrapped in newspaper and put down into the lightly moistened bottom layer of bedding. When I spray the top I mean I have to wade through the 10 inch layer of dry bedding first to get to the bottom moist layer. Then moisten the top of the bottom layer if it is needed. Oh my that sounds weird, hope it made sense!
I would not put smoothies in a plastic bin. My personal preference is not to mess with any run off whatsoever. It's easier for me to add a little water from a spray bottle now and then and be done with it.
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Post  Cincinnati on 8/17/2012, 7:34 pm

llama momma wrote:...
I would not put smoothies in a plastic bin. ...

The Worm Factory instructions said the worms would love me more if I made them smoothies. It also claimed that the worms would digest the food faster and make worm castings faster if I blended their food first.

So instead of dropping in chunks of food, I pulverized everything in a blender.

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Post  llama momma on 8/17/2012, 8:47 pm

There are of course different ways to do things, and I'm no expert but gosh, I don't know why they would say to put the food in a blender. My first worm bin produced over 11 pounds of lightly moist castings and all they get are food chunks, shoot, it is right out of the freezer, moistened, sprinkled with crushed egg shells then wrapped in moistened newspaper and into the bin. Once a week more crushed eggshells are thrown all around the entire bin. If I add too much food I can remove it later on. They get one week to finish it. Then its removed. If they finish the food in a week then I add more. Basically they are telling me when to add more food.

By putting the food in a blender, one, the worms don't get fed that way in nature, two, it's more work for you, and three, you are not able to easily remove the liquid food if the worms don't finish it. The way I see it you can always mist with a spray bottle. But once there is too much liquid you're forced to deal with the issue of excess water.

I very much enjoy Redwormcomposting.com and think its a terrific and extensive site for everything about the care of worms, it discusses all types of worm bins, indoor and outdoor set ups too.
Maybe you'd like to check it out.
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Post  Cincinnati on 8/17/2012, 10:26 pm

llama momma wrote:...By putting the food in a blender, one, the worms don't get fed that way in nature, two, it's more work for you, and three, you are not able to easily remove the liquid food if the worms don't finish it. The way I see it you can always mist with a spray bottle. But once there is too much liquid you're forced to deal with the issue of excess water.

I very much enjoy Redwormcomposting.com and think its a terrific and extensive site for everything about the care of worms, it discusses all types of worm bins, indoor and outdoor set ups too.
Maybe you'd like to check it out.
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LM,

I like how you do your worm farm. I concluded the instructions for my WormFactory appear to be written by someone who is not actually doing worm composting.

I will check out your referenced site. I will also start over and skip the blending. It got to be so much work that it is now more trouble than it's worth.

How long did it take to produce 11 pounds of castings?

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